Have any leaders or top democrats held press conferences or anything denouncing these actions or showing support for her? It seems like they are just leaving her on her own to deal with this which is pretty shitty..
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"Reportedly"? Like it isn't obvious? As in, it's obvious they're trying to eliminate their political opposition by any means and this is the first step of that?
But it's it really the first step. Feel like they have been making plenty of steps already.
It's something like when someone openly commits murder but, until they're convicted, they only "allegedly" did it
If someone openly commits murder, you are in fact allowed to say they did it without saying "allegedly". Otherwise there would be no free speech, it would mean you could not say anything that was not already whitelisted by the state.
Then why does the media call mass shooters "accused killers"?
Because it is very expensive to get sued if they get it wrong.
But I'm talking about cases where it is plainly obvious that these people committed the murders, but they still don't state it as a fact unless they're convicted
So I am not a lawyer. But it can't possibly be the case, that you are not allowed to publicly say something trivially provably true, unless you have a court's word that it is true. That would effectively mean that there is zero free speech.
I don't know if it's that they're not allowed by law or it's media policy, but this is what they do. The guy who committed mass murder at a movie theater in 2012, for example, was referred to as an accused killer. Also, nowhere did I say they weren't legally allowed to call these people murderers, I said that they don't. I was responding to a comment about how the media words these things as if they aren't obviously true.
"I'm sure Kamala would have been just as bad, because something something shitlib"
-- the purity ponies
Where the fuck are the fucking Democrats springing into action?
Neoliberals are conservatives. That's how we ended up here.
Conservatism is fascism and it has infested both parties. Allowing conservatives to continue existing among us will always lead to fascism.
Our push to the left must be merciless and unending. Normally, peace cannot cure fascism. We must accept that violence may be necessary to survive this.
Yup. When is the last time we saw dem leadership organize the party effectively, or release meaningful pushback to culture war rhetoric? It’s nada all the time with these clowns. Fucking Schumer and Jeffries apply all their efforts to serving billionaires and are happy to be unpopular as long as they get to lead the losing party. I’m sick to death of hearing how brilliantly Pelosi handled Republicans during her tenure— she literally fucking led us right to where we are now. Fuck anyone who serves billionaire interests.
Normally, peace cannot cure fascism. We must accept that violence may be necessary to survive this.
I see Yandex is back online.
The normal people disagree with your defense of conservatism. Conservatives are pure evil and should be dealt with as such. Your insults only add to my motivation to erase them.
Funny you would suggest that specific activity. I have donated my time at food pantries. Many, many times. One thing I've noticed there is a distinct lack of conservative volunteers.
Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy for others. This is why conservatives are almost never found giving their time to the vulnerable unless there is something in it for themselves (ex: church cred, entry to heaven, free food).
Conservatives' inability to experience empathy is also why their relationships are so shallow. For example, a conservative male sees his family as his property. He loves his wife the way a teenager loves a sportscar. He cannot develop a deep personal affection for his wife because that requires empathy.
A conservative's lack of ability to experience empathy is also why bigotry comes so easily to conservatives. It's why genocide is so easily supported by conservatives. It's why conservative policy so consistently harms the vulnerable.
If you are not a conservative, you really shouldn't defend them. They will never humanize you. Never. They don't even humanize each other. They simply can't.
I disagree. The left should not keep our thoughts to ourselves.
Turning the other cheek over and over again is how we ended up with conservatives building concentration camps in the U.S. The time for us to speak loudly and be heard is right now.
I notice your weak defense of conservatives lacks examples or evidence to support your claims that conservatives can experience empathy.
Perhaps you can tell me what I should say to conservatives in my debates when they tell me "empathy is fake". That's a fairly common defense from conservatives against my position that they cannot experience empathy. Should I tell them they are wrong and they can experience it?! 🤣
Your study does not address the conservative's lack of empathy. At all. In fact, if anything, it supports my position regarding conservative "love" being related to their positive expressions of ownership.
After reading your cited study, it's no wonder conservatives are so quick to disown their family members for being LGBTQ or for having interracial relationships. It's also no wonder conservatives will so often "trade in" their spouse for a younger model without any expression of loss. It seems conservative "love" really is shallow.
Look, no progressive is going to be fooled by your gaslighting that conservatives are empathetic and caring when ALL of our life experiences with conservatives show the exact opposite. Even conservatives themselves openly despise empathy, calling it "woke", "imaginary", "weakness" or "sinful". The enemy you are defending openly and proudly disagrees with your defense.
Conservatives will not spare you from the camps just because you argued in their favor. They will eventually turn on you as well. It's just the nature of conservatism. They need an enemy, and you will eventually be in that group if they continue to grow in power.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. I am not fooled by you pretending conservative violence upon the vulnerable is "imaginary". You know we (the normal people) can see it, right? We document it in video and share it on social media. All while conservative propagandists and apologists lie incessantly, trying to gaslight the population to disbelieve our eyes and ears. Your lies are tiresome and weak.
You have not convinced me to alter my views about how conservatives/fascists should be dealt with. Not even a little. In fact, the more you squirm and post weak deceptions, the more confident I become in my understanding of my enemy.
Sounds like something a conservative would say. Picking a random psych diagnosis out of a hat because conservatives don't value psychology... then pretending to care that someone would get the help they need when conservatives are biologically unable to care about the well-being of others.
You could have outsourced that attempted insult to Grok! 🤣
Let me try one... You seem to suffer from a pathological need to lie. I hope you get the treatment you voted for.
How'd I do? 😆
OK. Well, bless your tiny little heart. Sounds like you're suffering from multiple myeloma. I hope you get the medical bill you voted for.
They're doing everything they can: talking about it. We voted them into the minority, they have no ability to do anything.
It's amazing when the god-damned Nazis are the minority they sure accomplish a lot by stalling everything every way possible
Correct. It is easier to stall and destroy than it is to build.
Which Dem leadership could also certainly do to the MAGA agenda if they wanted to
They do, pretty consistently. At least the parts of the maga agenda that aren't stopping everything else.
It must be a great life, living without object permanence.

Lol wtf does some random article from 2019 have to do with today?
"Right now, Democrats have no power to do anything but talk about the thing that happened this week, and they are talking"
"Well SEVEN YEARS AGO they criticized the lady they're talking about now!! On a topic that ha nothing to do with her immigration status, which is currently being discussed. EVIIIL"
Genuine question, not trying to be insulting: are you stupid?
I believe the point OP is trying to make is that they have no problem calling her out, but won't come to her defense. Why? Because they actually answer to corporate interests, and what's happening to her now doesn't matter to those interests.
If their corporate donors called them and expressed their concern, you better believe they would have a press conference and be all over the Sunday political bs shows talking about it.
object permanence.
Genuine question: are you stupid?
No, but when dealing with fascist enabling liberals like you, it might appear that way.
Chuck Schumer has said nothing. He would happily watch the entire squad be subjected to this.
Typical leftist bullshit.
"Republicans are doing something bad so what are the Democrats doing without any power or majorities?".
During the Uvalde shooting, did it not upset you that the police stood around doing nothing? Even as the minority party, the Democrats have some power they can exert. At the very least, they can make a big stink about the situation. When the Republicans inevitably obstruct them, the Dems can highlight how the Republicans are obstructing justice.
Instead, what we've seen the Democratic party do time and time again is just sit on their hands, defeated. Rolling over like dogs, unwilling to even appear to care. Hiding away and hoping nobody notices them standing off to the side.
Yes, obviously people are upset when the Republicans do something bad. They want the Republicans to be held to account. The people that should be holding them to account is the oppositional party and the Democrats aren't doing that.
Omar does have people fighting on her side. As my Nation colleague John Nichols reports, she remains popular with her constituents in Minnesota, and the state’s Democratic Party has rallied to her side. House minority leader Hakeem Jeffries decried Trump’s “vile personal attacks” and the fact that Trump’s “violent mass deportation machine has descended upon the home of a duly elected Member of Congress and her family.” Even former Republican representative Marjorie Taylor Greene was critical of Trump. In a post on X.com, Greene asked how “pretending to get ready to deport Ilhan Omar is going to bring gas down under $2, make health insurance freaking affordable, make a family’s weekly grocery bill make sense, and stop sending our beloved military off to fight for another fucking foreign war???”
Greene’s pointed rebuke of Trump stands in sharp contrast to Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer, who in the five days since the raid has yet to say one word in defense of Omar.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/ilhan-omar-raid-trump-reaction/
But there are people speaking up for her within the democrats and the media is right lit up about this right now.
Your comparison to the Uvalde shooting is bullshit because the cops there not only didn't do anything but they actively held people back who were trying to help too.
I agree that it is good that Jeffries is speaking out in defense of Omar, but I would argue that the only reason he is defending his progressive colleague is because he's been recieving a bunch of pressure to do so. It is very obvious why the leader of the party is not defending Omar; it's because of the progressive ideals she espouses.
Leftists need to continue pressuring the Dems apparently for them to do the basics of their job. I see no reason why Jeffries would defend Omar without having experienced the pressure and criticism. He and the other Establishment Democrats in leadership positions have been actively sabotaging and holding back their progressive flank.
Don't move the goalposts you compared the democrat's reaction to the raid of Omar to be the same as the police response to Uvalde shooting.
Which is bullshit.
Hakeem Jeffries saying, "This is bad y'all" is the same as police showing up to a shooting and playing Candy Crush on their phones. I want Hakeem Jeffries to pledge launching an investigation and using whatever power his party has, even if it ends in the president pardoning the people responsible. Just like I wanted the police to storm into the school and take down the shooter killing children. I want action being done.
They are doing something about it. They're writing letters and complaining about it in the news.
That's all they can do, considering we voted them into the minority.
I want the ranking Dem member on every committee to conduct inquiries. Make a billion motions, cast votes, debate, whatever to result in some kind of legislative action. Hold formal proceedings, conduct investigations, subpoena people.
I want the Democrats to launch Benghazi style investigations like the Republicans did that helped tank Hillary Clinton's presidential run. The only difference being that there is actual wrongdoing here.
Liberals: Always making excuses for racism when it comes from the team wearing your preferred sports jersey.
This is focusing on legislative abilities and completely ignoring intent. Their silence on it is telling in and of itself. No condemnation? It's free. Are we to believe that they have to have the house and Senate in order to speak? Real leaders speak up and build back their power. These people just sit there hoping to win the next election solely because the other party screwed up.
The fuck sticks won't stop until wr have gas chambers again. I'm so tired of humans. How fucking hard is leaving other people alone?


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