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[–] 72 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Here's a better message for Catholics in the army:

You swore an oath to defend the US and its constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. A domestic enemy is actively soiling the office of the president, and rather than defend us against him, you continue to follow his orders. Stop doing what's easy, and start doing what's right.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Those people would be mad if they could read.. but one of the reasons they join is because reading wasn't so great

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    That's not a failure of their own. I got straight As and graduated college and have been working with people with only highschool education. I can tell you that it's the system. Older people can definitely learn new things if they're attention couples with a similar push from the educator's side.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    You speak as if half Americans did not actually vote for Trump. They would need to fight much more than just Trump himself. Trump perfectly represents what America has always been.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    You speak as if half Americans did not actually vote for Trump.

    Um... half of Americans did not actually vote for Trump. That's how halves work. The US isn't one person.

    If half the US is lining up to suck Trump's micropenis, and the other half want his head on a pike, which half do you think is my target audience here? The us has a Nazi problem, like fucking bad, but it also has people who aren't Nazis, and Trump absolutely does not represent those people. What they need to be is spurred into action - lumping them in with the Nazis will only serve the Nazis.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago* (4 children)

    The question is if the 2024 election was rigged, or if Trump actually represents the American people.

    You can make an argument for some rigging but in the end he did get a lot of organic support. And it is not like the US empire was not doing war crimes and imperialism before Trump.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Why is that the question? Adolf Hitler had a lot of organic support, but that didn't make him any less of an enemy to humanity, to include the Germans who opposed him, and regardless of whether or not those Germans were a minority opinion.

    Trump is using the same tactics to manipulate the same kinds of idiots, and while those MAGA (Nazis) are a very real issue in their own right, that doesn't make Trump any less of an issue that also needs to be addressed.

    Even if 90% of Americans (Germans) voted for him of their own volition, that still leaves you with 10% of the US population as potential allies.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Hitler is an amazing example. He was a member of the NSDAP party which he represented. He was not a sole person who changed the course of all of history. If Hitler did not exist, history would have likely not changed that much. There were many other prominent members in NSDAP like Adolf Eichmann and Heimlich Himmler who were extreme racial supremacists.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    ...and? That didn't make Hitler any less of an enemy to Germany or the rest of humanity, nor does the horde of neonazis lined up behind Trump make him any less of an enemy to the US or the rest of humanity.

    I guess I'm not really understanding your goal here. Mine is to spur some much needed action against Trump, especially from within the US. You're insistent on refuting that, but you also seem pretty clearly anti-Trump, so why the contradiction? Or if that's not what you're getting at, what is?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    That's been doctrine since 2018.

    American Catholics should also be prohibited by doctrine from voting for political candidates who support the death penalty. The death penalty is carried out on behalf of the government. You know, "of the people."

    Voting for a death penalty candidate is a form of participating in the executions that come from that vote. If the executioner refuses to do their job, the government will find someone else.

    Compare that with abortion, it's only allowing others to get abortions. If an expectant woman refuses to get an abortion, that's the end of that. It's just her choice.

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  • I will also point out that anti-abortion protestors often carry signs that say things like "what if Jesus had been aborted?" He wasn't, obviously, so that's just a weird hypothetical.

    But he was arrested, put on trial by the government, sentenced to death, and lawfully executed via crucifixion by the Roman government. His death was completely above board from a legal and political perspective. So you'd think Christians in general would be more firmly against the notion of lawfully executing criminals.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 weeks ago

    How DARE he tell his Pro Life congregation to be Pro LIFE!

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    How many divisions does the pope have?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    They should turn their weapons on the brass.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Hilarious that the church thinks it can step in and dictate which killings their god endorses

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  • [–] 52 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I mean thats kind of how that church works.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    With a commandment stating "though shalt not kill" you'd think partitioning good kills from bad kills would be a non-starter

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    With a commandment stating "though shalt not kill" you'd think partitioning good kills from bad kills would be a non-starter

    Brother, have you picked up and read a Bible? Like even just Exodus?


    Edit: I forgot that the fall of Jericho is the Book of Joshua, not Exodus, although timeline-wise, in the grand scheme of things, it's still basically right after the Commandments, which was what I was getting at.

    Joshua and the Promised Land fucking up my perception of how the Bible flows narratively.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I was raised baptist. There's a difference between events of the bible and what christians are commanded to do. Frankly I don't give a rat's ass anymore.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    no, see, the bible prescribes stonings, not firing squads.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    If they're still in the military, that's their choice. Most of these fucks want to fight for cheetohead. Otherwise, they would have looked to change their career in the last 10 years.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago* (3 children)

    It's not contrary to the church's teachings.

    Evidence in support of my position: Centuries of the Pope being totally fine with mass executions and murder. Also, Holy Bible. Yes, it does say "do not kill", it also says "kill".

    For example, it says to honor your mother and father, and it says that parents should murder their disobedient children by stoning.

    Then, it says "don't kill."

    So, it's more like 'don't kill*'. But they had not invented asterisks yet.

    It's almost as if different people wrote different parts of the Bible, and it's a contradictory mess.

    Anyway, if you can't follow orders, don't join the military. Following orders is, like, the most important part.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yep. Turns out "the" bible is a Rorschach blot and you pretty much get the morals and ethics you had in you before you came to it.

    Explains why you have things like Quakers and extremist right wing bloodthirsty crazies using it as their source. Explains why Jefferson did his own edit and basically excised it down to the red letter stuff.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    Of course the Bible is self contradictory. The only christian denominations that care about that are the protestants and their "sola scriptura" doctrine. Catholics, orthodox, Armenians, Copts, etc dgaf.

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