Their early stuff was a bit weak. Thankfully by the time they got there first album together they had found their formula. I mean "killing an Arab" compared to "Hanging Garden" or "a forest". You know which one you're choosing.

Robert was always heartfelt and sincere. Which is why it will always work. I'm just glad he didn't mazzy star himself. Instead coming to terms with a temporary Mass Appeal and just staying true to himself.

Also She Past Away and Twin Tribes.

Industrial is pretty settled goth territory. They are both descendants of postpunk along with "alternative". Worst case scenario they're close siblings. TKK 100% is "goth" 😉. At least in my circles. They'd laugh at anyone claiming otherwise.

Yeah, I recently started listening to the Sisters' three albums bc I realized I knew a bunch of songs but hadn't heard the albums all the way through. It's good stuff, I think Floodland's the best even tho I know a couple songs are supposed to be kindof a parody.

All solid and Calabrese is essential in any horror punk playlist.

If we really want to be pedantic, most goth things aren't "goth" technically. If they aren't from late 70s Manchester blah blah blah. But that's not a useful or often used definition. Typically when it's used it's with reference to a larger culture. Generally tied back to punk or horror. So horror Punk is absolutely goth Etc. 😁 As are TBM.

I may be biased. Once had someone pull me aside at a birthday party asking what the "shirt" was about. Only to realize I had worn my TBM shirt that day. I was like, it's a band and that's totally not what I'm plotting. You'll find out about that later. Though for the future I need to find some The Birthday Party merch to wear instead. Or at least Nick Cave. A lot less questions that way.

I really like one specific Depeche Mode album and it’s not their first and definitely wasn’t their last.

I'm guessing.... Violator? My fave is Some Great Reward, tho Black Celebration is pretty good too. I'm not familiar with a lot of their later stuff, tho Memento Mori was OK.

After Violator it got hard to call Depeche goth. But from about Construction Time Again till then, sure

Hadn't heard of zwyntar before. Interesting and another band to add to my Ukrainian list Etc LOL. Deadchovsky on the other hand I'm well familiar with and a solid candidate.