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[–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

you are 10 years too late, it was known even back then when the vote happened.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    And in the Scottish Independence referendum - because David Cameron asked them to.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    This is pretty common knowledge. Though not on the side Cameron would have wanted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_British_politics

    Russia funds separatist groups across Europe. Just search and you find ones like these:

    https://www.todoalicante.es/english/council-europe-claims-russian-20250408100414-nt.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/20/russia-funds-moscow-conference-us-eu-ukraine-separatists

    Why would you agree they interfered with Brexit but not the Scottish Independence?

    Divided we fall, so of course our enemies fund every level of separation they can. And to be fair, I bet we do the same to them.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I just wanted a higher standard, and I don't doubt at all that they try to divide all over Europe (and more, it's their modus operandi after all) but what I feel needs to be proven is that David Cameron asked for it.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Google it, come to your own conclusions.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago

    If Russia did interfere (of which I've seen no evidence) it would almost certainly be on the leave side as it would further their aim of dividing western countries and get them focused inwards rather than outward.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    pikachu face

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago

    "Britain does not need to fear a Russian invasion. It needs to wake up to the one that has already happened in our politics, our economy, and our national soul.

    For years, British politicians warned that “the Russians are coming.” The phrase conjured images of spies, hackers, and shadowy figures manipulating Western democracies from afar. But the truth is starker: they are not coming they are already here. The influence of Putin’s Russia has seeped deep into British political life, reshaping the nation’s direction through propaganda, financial infiltration, and the nurturing of divisive political figures. The evidence is all around us in the rise of Nigel Farage, Reform, the toxicity of Brexit, and the slow, deliberate decline of Britain’s economic and democratic strength. The seeds were planted long before the referendum. When UKIP and later the Brexit Party now Reform UK surged to prominence, their rhetoric carried echoes of Russian disinformation: anti-EU, anti-immigrant, anti-establishment. Each slogan was designed to pit neighbour against neighbour, region against region, and Britain against its own interests. Russia’s playbook has always been about destabilisation, and few events have destabilised Britain more than Brexit. Nigel Farage, feted by Russian state media as a “man of the people” and given disproportionate airtime by RT (Russia Today), became the perfect vehicle. His populism masked a geopolitically convenient mission: to weaken the European Union and fracture Western unity. Nathan Gill, Farage’s close ally and UKIP MEP, echoed the same anti-Brussels line, parroting narratives that dovetailed neatly with Kremlin talking points. The push for Brexit was not simply a domestic rebellion it was a geopolitical victory for Moscow. By removing Britain from the EU, Putin achieved through propaganda what decades of espionage never could: a divided, isolated Britain, struggling to find its footing in a global economy that has moved on without it. The results are plain to see. The UK’s economy is shrinking relative to its peers. Public services are starved of funds. Inflation and interest rates squeeze households while infrastructure crumbles. Britain, once a pillar of European stability, is now plagued by instability of its own making. And who benefits? Russia watching gleefully as one of NATO’s key members turns inward, distracted by culture wars and internal strife. The links between Russian money and the British right are no longer mere conspiracy. Under Boris Johnson, the Tory Party accepted millions in donations from individuals with ties to the Russian elite even as intelligence agencies warned of growing Kremlin interference. Johnson himself shelved the long-delayed “Russia Report,” which detailed how deeply Moscow had infiltrated British political and financial systems. Instead of confronting the threat, he and his allies downplayed it while their media surrogates, The Daily Mail, branded anyone who raised concerns as “Remoaners” or “traitors.” Meanwhile, Nigel Farage continues to parrot lines that have been written in the Kremlin press office. His public sympathy for Putin’s “understandable” invasion of Ukraine, his criticism of NATO expansion, and his insistence that the West “provoked” Russia reveal the depth of his alignment with Moscow’s worldview. Farage and his Reform movement are the tools in a decades-long campaign through direct command, and through shared goals: dismantle trust in democracy, erode Western alliances, and replace reasoned politics with perpetual anger. Farage as a fascist knows his next move is to gain power through the ballot box. Following that, the dismantling of the democratic system and replacement with his authoritarian regime. The Russians are not coming. They have already won their quiet war not with tanks or troops, but with propaganda, money, and manipulation, and the active participation of Farage and his secret army of Fascists. Their victory is visible every time a politician like Farage blames Britain’s struggles on migrants instead of oligarchic corruption, every time the Daily Mail echoes disinformation, and every time the government prioritises division over unity."

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    [–] 28 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    No mention of Cambridge Analytica? Not saying the Russians didn't influence the vote, but they definitely weren't the only ones.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Wasn't Cambridge Analytica itself a partly (but not wholly) Russian op?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    It was founded by an ex UK army officer and Steve Bannon, so no, not as far as I'm aware.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    yup and it's about to happen in Alberta

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  • [–] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    This looks a lot like the conservatives trying to exonerate themselves. Sowy, pwease, not ou’ fault 👉👈 :3 pwease

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  • [–] 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Let's face it, they probably did. But at this point it's fucking moot.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago

    at this point it's fucking moot

    It actually isn't, since they're seriously considering rejoining the EU and the fact that the original referendum result was heavily skewed by disinformation is one of their arguments for undoing it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    PM says he asked question upon entering No 10 but does not reveal who gave him ‘clear answer’ Russia meddled

    Andy Burnham has said it is clear Russia interfered in the Brexit referendum, after seeking answers on the Kremlin’s involvement in the 2016 vote when he entered Downing Street.

    Burnham said he had asked whether Moscow had attempted to influence the referendum and received a confirmation that it had.

    Speaking on the podcast The Rest is Politics, Burnham said: “I asked the question coming to Downing Street: well, was there interference in the 2016 referendum from Russia? I’ve had the clear answer that yes, there was.”

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    [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago

    This was known years ago to anyone watching that referendum closely. But it is nice to get the official word for it.

    Congrats, team "Leave". You've been bought by a spy and war criminal. In Rubles.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    USA, Russia, and China all do this in every election.

    Why wouldn't they?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    No they don't all do it in every election. Don't try to normalize and downplay this with such reductive, and incorrect, statements

    Understnading when, and why, major powers interfere in elections is important in combatting them

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    So much Russia shit hitting my news feed recently. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the upcoming American election and the Republicans worried about a historical loss they want to claim is fraudulent. Can't be...

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  • [–] 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    But the Russians usually work to get Republicans elected.

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