ICE official, who was sleeping on man’s lawn and appeared ‘intoxicated’, faces felony charges, California police say

A 72-year-old man shot an off-duty Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official in California early on Friday morning after the “intoxicated and agitated” official assaulted him and his daughter on their property, local authorities allege.

The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo, Fresno police said.

It was not immediately clear for how Gonzalez had been with ICE and what exactly he did for ICE. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which oversees ICE, referred all questions about Gonzalez to Fresno police.

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[–] 115 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Shortly thereafter, the daughter’s boyfriend, an off-duty police officer, arrived and placed handcuffs on Gonzalez.

I guess luckily they had a police officer in the family? I can't help but feel like things would have gone quite differently if they didn't have relations with the local police force.

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  • More people should.

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  • [–] 71 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    The Fresno police department said that the ICE official was receiving medical care after being shot in the midsection. The official, identified as David Gonzalez, is facing felony charges for assaulting the father-daughter duo

    "Gonzales" is a hell of a last name for a hired ethnic cleanser in California.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago

    Shout out to you for calling this “anti-immigrant campaign” what it is. I think the phrase Ethnic Cleansing needs to be permanently attached to ICE and the Trump Administration, and I wonder how many decades it’ll be before the media uses it.

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  • [–] 162 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Faces felony charges, but the federal department he works for passed questions to the local authorities.

    They dumped him on someone else to avoid accountability. Nice. Sounds like a Trump organization.

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  • [–] 85 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    This is best case scenario. Local investigation and charges. Otherwise the feds will block access to to evidence and just say everything was done according to the books

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    This just tells us there are still people in middle management who can’t stomach this shit. (Most people who couldn’t at higher levels have resigned already, and we can all see what’s coming for middle management)

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  • [–] 42 points 3 weeks ago (21 children)
  • [–] 99 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

    He's not a cop. He's got some self control, restraint and a general unwillingness to commit murder.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    True, but ICE agents are barely human anyway, so I say fuck em.

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  • [–] 48 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

    They're human. They represent the worst of humanity, but dehumanizing is their game, and it's best not to play it.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago* (7 children)

    Mmm nope, gonna have to disagree. Your statement is a demonstration of the paradox of tolerance in action.

    Any ICE agent, at any time, can choose to no longer be an ICE agent. The people that ICEatzgruppen are targeting and repressing and brutalizing and deporting and killing cannot choose to not be targeted.

    Fascists should be scared for their lives, always. The fact that they aren’t anymore, and haven’t been for at least a decade now, is a big part of how we got here.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I'm not saying they're good people. They're the worst of us, but they aren't doing anything humans aren't capable of doing. Don't trust them, but keep an eye on your own limits, too, as you don't want to follow their lead.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I saw someone else say they think of it as "pest control" and I agree with every fiber of my being.

    I don't agree with your statements at all. It's not a slippery slope to want to protect your fellow citizens from a modern Nazi SS

    ETA: I bet others back in the 1930s Germany were saying/thinking the exact same as you are right now. And I'd tell them to fuck all the way off because of it.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Exactly. Intolerance can't be tolerated.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I've been counselled to make sure if you ever have to shoot someone that you empty the clip into them, as it implies you were pannicked , in fear for your life, and and not in control of the situation.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    If the person counselling you knew what they were talking about they wouldn't call a magazine a "clip".

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    oh no, did I get the term wrong. So.. I'm not a gun guy and am unlikely to become one. I dont really care what the proper term is. If you want to shake your head that I'm not getting your terminology correct then you're as bad as the trekkies who pshaw people and say, "theres not even a warp core conduit going throygh that part of the ship". I just dont care.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 weeks ago

    "USA MAN Stands Ground."

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  • [–] 29 points 3 weeks ago

    Feelgood story of the year.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 weeks ago*

    I hope the recoil didn't hurt him.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 weeks ago

    And THAT is what your vaunted second amendment is for.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    That'll teach that domestic terrorist.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago

    More of this.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 weeks ago

    Put a bunch of unqualified fascist screw heads in uniforms AND masks. We are just a sad joke.

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  • [–] 55 points 3 weeks ago (20 children)

    It should be legal to shoot ice agents, on duty or off, particularly if they, as usual, are masked and not following police procedures. And if the man was afraid for his life, as he definitely should have been if an ice agent was involved, the precedent set by multiple high profile recent cases in other states is that it was legal. I hope that jury finds the same.

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  • [–] 26 points 3 weeks ago*

    Honestly, since ICE agents don't provide any kind of id when asked, we shouldn't refer to them as ICE agents, because that's really unconfirmed. It would be more appropriate to say "masked man dressed as ICE agent", because we can't actually know that they're an official rather than a criminal in a costume. And obviously, the correct and rational response to being assaulted or harassed by someone in a mask is to treat them like a criminal, and defend yourself appropriately.

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  • [+] -28 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

    It should be legal to shoot ice agents, on duty or off, particularly if they, as usual, are masked and not following police procedures.

    This isn't self-defense, it's just plain murder. While I don't agree with ICE wearing masks and acting lawless, calling for more violence is not the way. Don't become the very thing you hate.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Stop the thugs, not the people punching back if you want it to stop. It's cowardly to speak down, speak up and these poor folks will have nothing* to bitch about.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    I really don't think calling for no violence in a progressively more fascist, corporate-owned country that gets a hard on from shooting deadly weapons is logical.

    It's in their constitution, go wild guys. Better it used on the people harming society at large than anywhere else.

    America can deepthroat the barrel of a nice thick gun and pull the trigger as the climax

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I appreciate your sentiment against violence more than the community at large. While I do hate needless divisiveness, as many others have already said in this instance the person in question made a conscious choice to enact the hateful, barbaric policies of the trump administration as the instrument of violence for personal profit.

    We who cherish tolerance must be the most mindful of the tolerance paradox.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I'm not advocating for ICE's lawlessness nor tolerance for it. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of someone calling out to go murder with next to no context. What I mostly see for comments in this post are people regurgitating talking points and buzz words. Then there are the attacks on me misrepresenting my message or just plain acting like idiots saying nazi, nazi, nazi, ..... To think, these are the people who consider themselves the more educated side. Funny.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I don't think you know how war works.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    I don't think you remember what war does to everyone who actually has to go do it instead of sitting on their asses telling other people to go do it.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago

    How could they even tell he was off duty? He wasn't behaving any differently to when he's at work.

    Maybe less tacti-cool gear?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It took a remarkably long time for one of these assholes to get shot at.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah, honestly I'm surprised with how many gun happy people there are and tend to be anti authority to some degree. I feel like they wouldn't put up with a lot. Which in this case I'd high five them lol.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Pity his aim wasn't better.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    A shocking percentage of American gun owners put little effort into learning basic marksmanship.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Not that shocking tbh.

    Many own a fun just to protect themselves from others that own guns

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Many own a fun just to protect themselves from others that own guns

    I don't know if you meant to type that, but it certainly works.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 weeks ago

    Do Not Forget Rule 2.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I absolutely love the comments here. On cucked Reddit this would have been locked and nearly all comments deleted. I got permabanned there a couple days ago for going off on Russia and their stupid plague situation. Of course, I had previous bans, one of which was for wishing these Chinese kids, that killed those beloved village dogs a while ago, the absolute worst mob justice imaginable.

    Anyway, fuck ICE, keep firing at the bastards.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    all those in PA remember one thing. If you vote for Frank Pastella and the rest of the republicans, you vote to let Pastella rape your kids. Vote no to Republikkkans like Frank Pastella to keep their dicks outside of your children's bodies. even cucks should be smart enough to keep nazi dicks out of their children's bodies.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago

    Straight to jail.

    This is why journalism still exists in the US for now, and why the regime is trying very hard to kill it.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Good. Shame the fucker survived.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago

    What a tragedy. (That the ICE goon survived the shooting, I mean.)

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    Oh no!
    Well anyway...

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    More please!

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    We need to get this man a gun range subscription.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Good. Just next time, aim for the head

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