Even the majority supporting it quickly goes away though if you tell them that they wouldn't join with their previously privileged status
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Even the majority supporting it quickly goes away though if you tell them that they wouldn't join with their previously privileged status
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Don't take this badly but judging by what Labour is doing to anti-Genocide demonstrators, the UK nowadays is even more Fascist and authoritarian than it was back when it left the EU.
The country is so Far-Right that even the Brexiter Tories aren't Far-Right enough for a significant fraction of its population and Reform UK emerged and has significant support
Now that the Poles and the Hungarians have solved that specific problem in their countries, if Britain was to rejoin the EU it would be the most Far-Right and authoritarian country in it and, worse, it the weird American-style Fascism with its thick strain of hateful preachy moralism such as transphobia.
IMHO, Britain needs to change its politics and popular mindset before it rejoins the EU.
half of the UK never wanted to leave
the groups that voted to leave are now dead/retired or moved abroad probably anyway
This assumes the European Union is open to the idea of the UK rejoining. And I'll tell you what: after all that needless drama, I don't think Europe wants to deal with the drama queen for many years to come.
In any case, even if the UK does rejoin, it certainly won't get the special treatment Thatcher got it the first time around.
Nobody in the EU is enjoying all the extra paperwork for shipments to and from there UK. All it is, is a head ache.
Everyone I've spoke to, at least in Germany, is completely fine with the UK rejoining. Just under the assumption that the UK won't get special treatment.
EU is not doing that great and is looking for new alliances to stand up to US. 4 years ago I would agree with you they they are not interested in taking UK back. Today? Not so sure.
Its a major market for goods, services and labour, and it would simply arrangements in Ireland. Its military would come in handy too.
Negotiations would be hard, but I see a few smaller concessions around say exemption from the eurozone.
It's not the only factor. The other, major issue with the UK is that it most often aligns with the US, and the last thing Europe needs is a fascist outpost in its midst.
If the EU opens exceptions for the UK it needs to open exceptions for all new members, and rewards bad behaviour.
At most there can be a tacit agreement that the EU will ignore the UK monkeying around to not be eligible for the Eurozone like Sweden does.
Well I guess we need more countries that ppay more into the EU than they get out of it. With the dumb aggressive plans to expand the EU into the balkans (countries which for sure would get more money than they would pay into the EU), we need more economically strong countries in the EU.
We're not rejoining the EU any time soon.
Andy Burnham deliberately did this to distract the right wing press from his proposals to abolish the "Triple Lock" on pensions; an expensive policy that benefits older people only by guaranteeing pensions rise by the highest of average earnings, inflation or 2.5% a year. He wants to make it a "double lock" and use the savings to fund social care.
By talking about possibly rejoining the EU (alongside other options - he effectively said he wouldn't rule out rejoining) he's managed to get the right wing eurosceptic press up in arms talking about this instead of the triple lock.
He is not going to actually follow through on the EU because that would be a gift to reform to fight the next election on that issue. Don't get me wrong, I have no doubt Burnham does want us to rejoin the EU long term, but there is no way that is going to be a major issue in the next election. Expect any government proposals to be quietly displaced "until after the next election" as is the standard practice in UK politics to ignore a major topic.
cabinet ministers concerned about reopening Brexit divides are privately urging him to proceed with caution.
I think they have a valid point here, although it may not be the point they intend. The process of getting people onboard with rejoining, and the negotiations themselves will have to be approached with caution, as screwing them up now will mean an even longer delay, and even more harm, before rejoining.
it’s gotta be a lot higher than half. it was just over half for the referendum. now we’ve witnessed the devastation first hand. the few idiots i know who voted to leave have all very much changed their views. is there really anyone who still thinks our economic suicide was good???
Yeah this won't happen; it needs to be 60% before any politician would seriously consider risking everything over a referendum on this again.
This is just a distraction to annoy the right wing press and get them talking about Europe instead of the abolishment of the triple lock on pensions.
a referendum on this again.
It wouldn't be a referendum on that again. What once was is now gone for good. It could be a referendum about joining the EU, but on very different terms than the last time.
UK won't be rejoining without switching to the Euro and joining the Schengen area. I don't see its people wanting those two things for the next two decades at least.
is supported by almost half of all voters
Almost
Half of UK doesn't want to. Same as always.
We should have defaulted back into EFTA where we came from.
A lot of the people who supported it are either dead or changed their mind when they realised brexit was moronic.
I hope we do rejoin
almost half of all voters
If almost half support rejoining, as in under 50%, it doesn't seem like all that many died or changed their mind.
Good thing there's an infographic in the link, the for and against are as follows.
Topic Pro | Against
Rejoining EU 50 | 28
Customs union 47 | 21
Single market 45 | 23
Associate Membership 45 | 21
The rest remain undecided/don't care/whatever it's politics.
So going forward with an associate membership seems like something that'd garner support for a PM rather than abolish them. If they'd be master negotiators, they'd aim for a Swizz or Norwegian type deal.
There will be the undecided/don't knows and the people who just won't vote, which last time round accounted for 30%.
Come back guys, we still like you.
I wonder what kind of deal Scotland would get if they joined... independently
Half of the UK didn't want to fucking leave in the first place.
Other countries take non voters into account for referendums, counting them as a vote for the status quo. If we did that, then only one third of the country wanted to leave.
Lots of words but the EU is probably not going to fall for it a second time.
They should just put it in the manifesto and do it - no referendum required. After all most of the stupid old twats that voted to leave are dead now.
I can't believe half still think they're better off not being in the EU.
There is a valid argument that the EU is not a perfect system, particularly from a democratic standpoint.
But at this point its like saying the local supermarket is bad so I have chosen to go without food for two weeks. Its just not working out how you hoped.
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