8AM? School must start very late where you live. Classes started at 7:45 for me, so wakeup time would've been more like 6:30.

8AM? You’re not the kid, you’re getting 6AM so you can get that kid(s) dressed, fed, washed, etc.

Wait until this guy learns about having a job

Bruh my cats are basically alarm clocks in the morning 😹

Jokes on you! I wake up at 5am already and 4am if I’m going fishing.

But that’s just me getting up, I don’t have kids or anyone else to get moving in the morning.

Maybe it’s jokes on me 🤷‍♀️

8AM is late. 6 or 5 is typical.

My wife and I wake up at ~6:30am to get our daughter on her bus. We are not morning people, in fact we are quite emphatically night people. Left to our own devices, we will sleep more like 1am-9am. We knew this when we had our kid, and we figured that our circadian rhythms would naturally adjust to the baby's.

They did not. It's been six years since I had what felt to me like a "normal" sleep schedule.

I love my daughter, she's my reason for living, I wouldn't trade her for anything, not by a long shot.

But nobody should fuck around with parenting, and nobody should have to be convinced to do it, let alone coerced. The very idea of someone doing this without 100% wanting to do it sounds like just about the worst kind of hell I can imagine, for both parent and offspring.

this one falls flat. most people have to wake up before 8 to go to work regardless of marital status or kids.

12-15 years of helping them go to school, then 10 years of helping them avoid terrible life choices when they are most prone to making them and least likely to listen to you, then 5-10 years of worrying about their career and finances and then you can finally start everything again with your grandchildren. Yay!

I did that (breakfast, going to school) by myself since I was like 5

What scares me the most about having kids is that I would have kids.

LoL, you think it’s 8am! Here school starts at 8:30, and kids need a stupidly long time to get ready! Our usual wake up time is 7:15am, but it is not too uncommon that our kid wakes us up just before the alarm.

LPT: Marry a "morning person".

I just long for when they get old enough to not wake up 5:30 every morning

I'm not childfree, I have a kid, but he's 22 and no longer lives with me.

But the thing is, I'm consistently woken earlier by my fucking cat than I ever was by my kid when he was little.

Jokes on you, my mum wouldn't wake up at all and yelled at me for not being on time or knowing how to prepare my own food!

.. Fuck me in retrospect that was crazy bad

yeah I would hate getting up that late and not having my work day done at 3pm

Shit, wait a minute. I never thought about that

They have to be there at 8am, sometimes even 7 in some cities. Also, babies keep you awake all night.

No kids and looking forward to retiring in my mid-30s

Well, you luckily do not have to, if you dont want to.

Thats like, your choice, man.

I'm a very late night person, and do work around the clock. Haven't ever done 9-5 work. Having kids does not make that easy, but thats my choice, once again. Pushing 40 years I wouldnt be able to go through it again with small kids. My wife just had to get a few dogs though. Same things as with small kids..

As someone with 2 kids and wasn't the biggest fans of kids all O can say is we kind of trained them to sleep in lol. With that said school is the worst part... im up by 6:45am during the week, but once they are gone i go back to bed for an hour or get some stuff done before my 9am job. Also weekends and summer they sleep till like 9am which is ok in my book!

In elementary school, they have these things called school busses. And once they hit Middle School, they want to take transit, because that's what all their friends do.