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[–] 101 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Can we take a breath here. The fact that this even exists is amazing. A third party android ROM has secured a flagship phone that finally peels us away from google and everyone is shitting on it.

Let it come to market, make it successful and give them reason to offer it as an option on other models.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    The fact that this even exists is amazing.

    That's why I'll believe it when it's actually in people's hands.

    The many qualifiers they hanged on the Signature and the uncertain date makes me believe they could pivot at any time. Also Google is not going to be happy about any manufacturer trying to get away from under their thumb. So it could still turn out to be some kind of rope tug between Google and Motorola, like Samsung duplicating all Google apps just to make a point.

    Last but not least the many supposed years of support are most likely bogus, Lenovo's Motorola has never updated any of their phones for so long.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    , make it successful

    How.

    With a Epstein Class price tag, the only ones who can make it successful are... the Epstein Class.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    What even is that camera design?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I swear. I hate how modern design does misshapen/ugly/asymmetric just for the shock value, instead of because how it might actually look good.

    Someone needs to fire the business student that told those engineers to make that.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    See, this is where I might have a different opinion.

    If it IS the engineers, there is likely a functional reason and I’m fine with it.

    However if it is something fucking Marketing wants…

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I don't mind it, but I wish Motorola would make some smaller phones. 6.8" is so damn huge. I want my shit to fit in my pocket, dude.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    6.9” iPhone 16 Pro Max fits just fine in my pocket. Wearing pants with pockets too small for a modern smartphone is a style choice no one is forcing you to make, and for those who do, Apple will happily sell them a stupid looking sock sling thing for like $99.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Not only about pockets, I want it to fit my hands as well. Wanna talk about those as well?

    Either way, it's a preference. I don't want a clunky chunk of thing on me. I want a smaller phone. It's my preference as a consumer, and I want phone makers to make smaller phones.

    I have a right to my opinion.

    Also I don't want to support Apple like some sheep.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Sure. Hands is a valid topic. I struggle with any phone. I don’t get how people do it. I had a Motorola phone years ago that had a kickstand, and I found myself manipulating it to grip the phone better. Now I’m a loyal FlyGrip user. Have been for over 10 years. It… helps.

    But I’m with you, I want smaller phones. I thought weight was the only factor, and the 16 series weighed less than what I had before, so I talked myself up to the big one. I don’t dislike it, but handling it is more of a challenge.

    I didn’t come here to debate platform. I use both. Your choice if you want to support an ad company over a computer company, absolutely. Weird flex, though. But let’s not go there because I can and do debate both sides. We can talk about the coolest Android launchers, lock screen and widget customisation, or the fact that Gboard doesn’t randomly hallucinate weird ass auto corrections like the iOS keyboard. I love typing on Android because it doesn’t change what I type after I type. (I also like Firefox with uBlock Origin, though Safari with Wipr2 is almost as good.)

    So yeah, best to keep it to phone sizes. My Galaxy S10 battery doesn’t last long (audio it’s the original 2019 part), but it charges fast! Small phones with small batteries are great if you carry a brick or otherwise plan accordingly — and I do carry a 10,000mAh brick in my laptop bag.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    That was a teensy bit weird with how you're a) saying say that I'm trying to "flex"(??), and b) you don't want to debate platforms but then you go on at length about that very thing and end it with "but let's not do that which I just did". Anyway...

    I'm using a Pixel out of all things, and I don't really like it, but it's the best phones in my opinion, for their price. Very much opinion based of course. They're stock Android, they get updates fast and for a long time, they sell small phones with great cameras. 🤷‍♂️ It is what it is.

    But it's an ick, for sure. As soon as I find a phone that I like as much, I will definitely continue my de-Googling process. But my phone, I have to deal with on a daily/hourly basis, so it needs to be good. You know what I mean. 🙂

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    420” Gucci 69 Pro Max phone fits just fine in my hand. Growing hands too small for a modern smartphone is a personal choice no one forced you to make, and for those who do, FlyGrip will happily sell them a stupid looking plastic brass knuckle thing for like $30.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Motorola Signature 27 is promised 7 years of Android OS and security updates and has quite the look with its quad-camera setup on the back. That includes a 50MP Sony LYTIA 910 main sensor and 200MP periscope telephoto lens. The other two haven’t been confirmed just yet.

    Sauce

    Gonna charge like wounded bulls.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Three shallow/flat cameras in a row, and one didn't fit, so they carried it over to a new row.

    Pretty mundane/mid. Having the four cameras in a 2x2 grid would be about the same to me, functionally, aesthetically. It's not amazing, and it's not horrible. It's pretty much a standard phone tablet.

    My biggest problem is likely going to be the price, not the camera placements.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Meh, when my pixel 7a finally doesn't receive support, I'll be moving from GOS to LineageOS. As much as I love security, I hate ewaste more.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago*

    This is actually an important thing to consider. Unfortunately, there is a large overlap in the groups of people who are big on degoogling Android (or mobile devices in general) and who were the tech gadget enthusiasts who cared more about the toys than the utility which has helped facilitate this state of affairs.

    Much of the pro-privacy and renewability discourses are then mired in the contradictions between utilitarian software/hardware design and consumerist notions of "supporting" alternatives. Fairphone is another good example of how this often manifests as advertisements to own yet another extremely resource-costly device to be part of a progressive tech movement.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Fingers crossed that this is just the start, and that we see a quick move to middle and budget range devices. I can understand why they want to start with a flagship device, as they'll be able to link / hook the software with excellent hardware. The more people that find out about Graphene OS, the better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    But you don't understand. The flagships are the only chips that support their requirements.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    That why we now need for the other CROMs to get in touch with the manufacturers and get a partial measure that can get other phones well-up and operational. My personal take, they need to request the ability to relock the bootloaders of devices that are already off the market and would next turn into ewaste otherwise. Frame it as an olive branch so that the people who keep those devices might at least think of fetching a privacy / environment focused successor of the same brand for the next cycle(s).

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago
    [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I’m fine with the cameras. I’m just wondering why it’s gotta slim down. A thicker battery would make sense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I would much prefer lighter phones, personally.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Definitely.

    Battery life/Android battery usage has improved tremendously over the years, as has better tech.

    Plus standardizing on USBC means charging is available everywhere.

    And I'm someone that charges 2-3 times a day (in addition to a controlled overnight charge). In Ye Olden Days my phones had extra batteries and battery cases.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Please pleaseee be available worldwide!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Big question for me is will they try to put their own "flavor" on Graphene with pre-installed bloat apps?

    I have a backup burner "normie" phone that's a Motorola with regular Android, and when I got it I had to remove 20+ garbage apps using adb.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    If it has satellite support.. I'm in

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Is there attestation for banking or do they use MicroG? I'm honestly not sure I'd use it anyways. Banking apps are data mines, but I'm still curious

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    In general, how does Motorola's hardware compare to the pixel?

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