No card slot... Booooo !
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Those cameras are stupid, 200MP is utter nonsense, no SD card slot is insane.. I wish Graphene would pick a better phone
Graphene picked an OEM who were willing to work with them and a device with the right CPU to support the hardware security features.
This was what was available.
The iPhone is a better device for you. You'll never be able to get the most out of a graphene phone.
If Graphene would run on the iPhone it would be my first choice. But my privacy is more important than sexy hardware. It would have the added benefit of blending in, law enforcement is already targeting Pixel phones. That wouldn't be practical with iPhone.
Still no SD cards though.. but not even the Pixel does that
I'm glad it comes with a Snapdragon 8 Elite Extreme instead of one that's not Elite or Extreme
I've been so hyped for this, but wow am I ever disappointed. Here's hoping some better phones are to come with Graphene support
Better? Isn't this already a premium phone? Idk much about phones.
not the person you replied to, but i assume things like headphone jack, sdcard support, no insane camera bump, repairable design, saner price
in addition i wish for stuff like smaller size, LCD instead of AMOLED, no pinchhole/notch. yeah ik that's impossible these days..
My major issues with it is that it's the first phone to officially support Graphene, so you'd think it would cater to a different demographic.
Yet there's no headphone jack, no SD card support. And it's WAY too big. It's just another boring modern phone that is selling itself on being unnecessarily powerful.
Happy to hear it's coming, hoping midrange phones are next.
You well know when they come, when qualcolm puts the features in their midrange chips. GrapheneOS is not going to support SOCs that do not have the features they require.
I think people going for this hardware + OS are more of a function over form crowd.
90W charging, huge storage option, high quality cameras (I already have a billion lenses on the back of my phone so I just don't give a shit), great screen - yeah I don't care how the thing looks. I care about GrapheneOS support and that it has the hardware to keep it usable for more than a couple of years.
Right now its between this and a flip phone + umpc for me. We'll see where things go in the coming months.
Not me - I'm on Graphene but one of the biggest things I love about the software itself is that it's very well designed, which is rare to see in the FOSS / privacy community. I hate shitty UIs and shitty design in general.
Jesus, I don't care what it does to the image quality, I just don't ever want 4 lenses on the back of my phone
I miss the days of a single camera lens. I wouldn't even mind a system where you can swap the lens for different needs, but having a "camera bump" on a phone is so annoying. I prefer not needing a case to make the back of my phone lay flat on a table.
at least this one is now horizontal. so if the individual lens does not protrude too much away from the island, like the iphone 17/18 do, it shouldn't rock when it's on a flat surface.
despite the stupid trend of putting massive islands o. the back of the phone, when well designed it acts as a finger cliff to balance on my hand.
I hand a large hand so mileage will vary as always.
Personally, I think it's better than the Samsung Galaxy Ultra series because, on those phones, the camera island goes down the phone, not across it, making magnetic accessories cumbersome to fit on at times.
The Motorola also looks like it doesn't have a camera island, just protruding cameras. I can't be sure though.
5 cameras? can i get a phone with zero cameras?
16 GB RAM
Will I finally be able to compile stuff and use Nix on it?
Sure, you can also just do that now.
Aren't these things $1400 or some crazy price?
From what I have seen, the last Motorola Signature was €999 (~$1,136 USD or $1,606 CAD). So not a cheap device at all.
Source: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/motorola-signature-27-coming-to-the-us-rival-samsung-galaxy/
I know they already said to expect flagships, but it's still very disappointing to me.
Personally, I'm just never going to buy a phone with something like the 8 Elite Extreme Gen 6, a flagship among flagships.
What are you supposed to do with a beast like that? It's just a lot of money wasted, because nothing you'll ever use a smartphone for requires even 50% of that performance.
I hope some cheaper, weaker options will be supported by Graphene too.
All I want any phone to do is a great camera, a decent auto experience and contactless payments.
I hope linux can get a decent camera system operational. GOS stock camera is abysmal.
GOS stock camera is abysmal.
it truly, seriously is. I bit the bullet and got Google's camera app which sadly works much better. I just block it from having any network permissions but even then it feels really sketchy. but I'm not going back to the GrapheneOS camera, it's just so fucking miserable.
The contactless payments would be a huge step. If Linux phones could get the actual phone functionality working on most models, that would be nice too. I desperately want what we were promised with Ubuntu Phone like 15 years ago. A functional phone with convergence would be fantastic.
Over $1000 but no headphone jack?? It's such a basic request for a privacy based phone
It's not a privacy based phone. It's a phone they're hoping to sell to mass market consumers that so happens to be about to run a privacy based OS.
You are not the target audience and will continue to not be unless people like you become the dominant consumer of such a device. The problem is the people who enjoy this community, by and large, own a pixel 3 and won't purchase anything unless it's got every feature they want.
Even more unfortunately is those features only end up on cheap phones because manufacturers correlated them with poor people. Need a headphone jack? Must be too poor to afford Bluetooth headphones. Need an sd card slot? Must be too poor to afford a cloud subscription or bigger phone. Need a removable battery or to repair your device? You obviously can't afford to buy a new phone every 2 years.
The bottom line is you are all too sensible to spend the money and influence design decisions so this is what you get.
Even the cheap motos have headphone jacks, but I guess that's to much to ask.
This is awesome; first non-google phone supported. It us a bit on the expensive side for me, but a good step in the right direction.
Hopefully they will be able to get Motorola/Qualcomm to have the required security features on a lower end SoC and hence phone.
GrapheneOS isn't even mentioned on the product page, strange.
It won't come with it
What makes you say that?

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