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[–] 87 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Formal prompt engineering certification?

Lol. Lmao even

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (7 children)
  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    From paper mills? Probably. Accredited? Unlikely.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yeah none that I would respect, but I bet you could buy a qualification

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Cisco has a prompt engineering course that counts for CE credits. I know because it was one of two free courses available that I used to recert recently. Welcome to hell.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Well, my formal education is officially certified by the tar_alcaran Institute of super good paper signing. Which is all very formal and official.

    But not accredited, because that would be illegal. It would meet their requirement though

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Calling them 'prompt engineers' has to be a real kick in the nuts to actual engineers.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Software engineer is still insulting to a lot of mechanical engineers

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    All engineers know that their specific field of work is the most important, most difficult and most complex type of engineering there is.

    Most of them are wrong of course, because the aforementioned field is PLC design and programming. Which is coincidentally, what I do.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Anyone that's completed an actual engineering degree/diploma knows that there is a significant difference between completing an engineering course and being an engineer. Unfortunately, there's lots of people that haven't done either and still use the name.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    really? I don't know anyone that feels that way. mechanical, mechatronics, and software are my closest friend groups.

    maybe it's just that the additional professional qualification of engineer in my province adds a clear distinction between engineering graduate and professional engineer

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Idk I guess I didn't finish my degree but it felt very engineering focused, I'm not going to guess your knowledge but software engineers build systems that can basically do anything.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The word "relevant" suggests that the only people who can possibly meet those qualifications are the authors of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_Is_All_You_Need, which was published just about 9 years ago

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  • [–] 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You can work much faster with AIs than is shown on wall clock time.

    Just make sure that you’re working with 9 LLMs at once and you can get that 9 years experience in just one year.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Guess who wrote that job description

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Yeah, that kinda crap has been around for forever, I know I ran into these same types of HR written BS requirements back in the 2000 when I was searching for jobs and .NET and Java was the latest hotness, been out for just a few years and was running into job postings requesting 5 - 10 years of experience.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    As a mobile dev, I remember seeing jobs early on that would have years of experience required that predated android/ios.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    That one "AI dungeon" videogame from like 2019 was using gpt2 and it was still better than current "exponentially improving" chatgpt at most things. Was just a bit more porn oriented that's all.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    It says overall experience. Just say you worked two simultaneous AI jobs for the last five years and you're good!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    Machine learning/LLM actually was around 10 years ago, it just didn't have the farcical "AI" moniker.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yeah.

    The groundbreaking "Attention Is All You Need" paper, in which transformer architecture was proposed, was published 9 years ago. It was obviously part of a much longer running conversation around how to use linear algebra to find machine learning applications. If you're looking for someone who understands the underlying math and processes at a lower level, this isn't an unreasonable ask.

    It is, however, an unreasonable ask of someone for a "prompt engineer" job though.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Ironically, I have literally implemented backpropagation from scratch like three separate times at this point (once before the famous CUDA impl) but I'd probably fail this interview for not knowing enough of the current agentic meta.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Good thing I've used ELIZA my whole life.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I was a PM and wrote specs, that's prompt engineering.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I've got like 30 years experience with AI if you include street fighter 2 turbo edition single player mode

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    We could go pretty far back depending on how you define it. We had less useful items that still could qualify in the same category as a modern LLM 7-8 years ago which gets us close... You could potentially stretch the definition to something like Megahal which is pushing pretty close to 30 years old.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    There were technically ais back then. They just didn't do much and just spout nonsense sentences

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  • That's more experience than Big Balls had to go through everyone's shit.

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