I wish we could use something other then discord, like societally
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I wonder what they could be doing to determine "server types" that isn't privacy invasive like reading messages
Edit: it seems discord has published a document that somewhat explains how this works. It's not as detailed as I'd like, but I think it's as detailed as one could expect without them spilling some trade secrets or implying how to bypass it.
https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-estimates-age-without-collecting-your-identity
- You can check your age group status at User Settings > Account Status. We've estimated your age group automatically from account signals like how long your account has existed or the kinds of servers you're a part of. We donβt look at your messages, calls, or other content. We're launching this over the course of this week, so it may take a few days to reach your account.
Yeah I noticed this, but the "kinds of servers you're a part of" line is what caught my eye.
I wonder how they categorize servers and what they use to determine this.
Ah, apologies. I absolutely misunderstood your comment. I definitely need to wake up more before I comment but at least the info is now here for people to see at a glance.
I don't see myself in a "fortnite" server, as I don't see kids on a "home_owners" server for example.
The "we estimated your age from account signals" bit is the polite version. Australia made the big platforms do this in December, and the regulator's first report found some of them letting under-16s retry the age check until they passed. So the kids get infinite continues and the adults get checked too.
France tried to ban social media for under-15s this summer and its Constitutional Council struck it down for exactly that reason: to check the kids you have to check everyone, and the law had no privacy guarantees for the adults. Discord just skipped the court part.
Why does it feel like this has happened every couple months for the last 2 years?
And I still wonβt do it. If they try to shove it down my throat then Iβll stop using it. I donβt need discord. No one does. Thatβs what they donβt get.
Goodbye discord
I knew about Discord since the very beginning. But it felt always fishy. Why would they provide a service for frees? Teamspeak servers cost money on a monthly basis?
Over the time more and more small communities i liked to interact with were only accessible via Discord. Which was alright because you didnt even need an account to do it. Jump in, do the thing and fuck off.
At some point it was just convenient to make an account with an email adress i dont even remember anymore. Just to keep up with all the niche interest groups. Then a lot of them started to require my phone number. lmao. I just left those "servers".
But ngl over the years i found some communities which will hurt to abandon. The network effect is real. But its maybe time to fuck off forever.
I mean they shipped an increbible product. When out alternatives were Zoom, with no commhnity functionality, teamspeak with no streaming or video, or something like slack maybe for coordi ation, they stuck it all together and made it work. It is without exaggeration the perfect vehicle for everything ICQ and other bespoke instant messaging widgets started almost 40 years ago.
So yeah but of course if you have something everyone wants the tendency is to monitize it until it's a husk of its original intention. So it goes. I'm waiting for the next alternative that people want to actually shift to but I'm not giving them my money. In the meantime my actual RL commhnities are all here and they're not Meta-tier evil yet so I fon't have a problem with staying for now.
The base tier is free. If you want the flashy features, you have to subscribe. Most people want those features.
More and more features have moved behind that paywall. Streaming 1080, for instance, used to be free.
What has been most concerning to me about Discord was the trial of a call timer on random servers. By now this may of expanded to all servers, not sure. My thinking is how long until they are charging us for minutes like the phone companies did? Or more likely, giving unlimited minutes only to nitro subscribers.
I'm done with it, I set up my own teamspeak server like the good ol' days.
Fluxer has been an adequate replacement for my ttrpg group, for anyone else looking for alternatives.
I've been using fluxer for a little while now, and it is pretty good! Though I'm looking forward to bug fixes for the screensharing and eventually federation being introduced
It is pure Ai slop that won't be around in 3 years. I am open to counter arguments.
I looked up their GitHub repo and I don't see the "agents.md" file, AI/LLM disclosures nor signs of LLMs in the commit history. Is there any source of information on Fluxer being slop?
When I read the repo a few months ago, I saw one guy added more than 1m of code. They are deceiving everyone and should be punished.
Isn't this because Fluxer source code was published after the app has been launched?
People suspected he'd uploaded Fluxer in one big chunk to hide LLM usage. He admitted to using some AI help initially but claimed that he would use it sparingly.
This new issue is that he seems to be using LLMs heavily, based on the fact that he uploaded a million lines of code last month alone.
https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer/graphs/contributors?from=8%2F22%2F2026
I checked again today and it is 11m lines of code added. Do people not understand what it takes to code 1 million lines? PostgreSQL is around 1m. PHP the language and runtime are 1m. The man hours required for that much code is ridiculous.
It's free and open source, and I don't think perfect should stand in the way of good. If my group needs to migrate in 3 years, so be it; it's working now and isn't a Microsoft product.
So what you are saying is your initial version violated our privacy? Tell us more discord, how EXACTLY did it infringe on our privacy? What made you say that? We want to hear it from you.
My account is over 11 years old and still cannot see nsfw. Need to be 13 to start using discord so it should automatically age verify me to 24+. But they just want an excuse to track people 100%
I hate discord but I canβt convince the people I talk to to go elsewhere. And discord just this evening said my account of nine years is too young to see nsfw channels. Par for the course
Discord helps creating the problem, and gleefully announces a "least bad" option after laws are in place. Hmm.
This sucks but isn't surprising.
It's frustrating though, because getting friends to use anything else, let alone bigger communities that i follow, is nigh impossible.
Fluxer. We switch to Fluxer.
I can't believe any of you people have accounts left. Didn't you delete it after the last round of bullshit? Frankly if you stuck around you deserve bad things happening to you.
The last round of bullshit was "oopsie" rolled back and the movement lost momentum
Some nice communities literally only exist on discord. Goes for a lot of modern software
Direct laid back communication between communities and devs is right there
Some Information isn't even on websites anymore or it's plain outdated and not maintained, just a link to discord
We're fucked. That's thingie number 3373838 self respecting people should have left ages ago. Meanwhile most people religiously use instagram and whatsapp every waking hour of their day

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