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[+] 34 points 1 month ago (4 children)
  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Jesus i didn’t realize how many of them are out there

    77 million voted Trump.

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  • [–] 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    "Person wearing Meta Glasses is an instant red flag", fixed the headline

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    Those who are not repulsed by the idea of using products from the creators of Facebook known for privacy infringement is a red flag.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Wired passed on calling them "pervert glasses".

    Cowards.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Webarchive link (open with Javascript disabled)

    If you aren't an influencer or streamer, or whatever, what is going through your head when you do that? Do you want to relive a rejection?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    I recently saw a story that claimed some guy wears the glasses as a form of protection from lying women.

    I don't know if it's BS or not, but the fact that I can't tell, doesn't seem like a good thing for society.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    How would that even work? Wouldn't they have to film the entire intercourse which would be straight out illegal? Because I assume we're talking about false rape allegations, not lying about their hobbies or something. Sounds like a bad excuse to gather dirt and bully someone later.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    as a form of protection from lying women.

    rapist says what?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    People who lie about SA/etc. and destroy people's lives are unfortunately real (regardless of gender/sex) and isn't that uncommon. This is an extremely sensitive and controversial issue for everyone, that I don't think can be fairly distilled into a sweeping generalized accusation.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    isn’t that uncommon.

    More uncommon than rape and sexual assault.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    "X suffers more so Y issues don't matter."

    Be better.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I never said they don’t matter. Work on your reading comprehension.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    What were you saying then? I also don't see another interpretation tbh

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Rape and sexual assault occurr more often than fake accusations.

    This is a factually true statement regardless of how anyone feels about it.

    Survivors rarely make false reports about sexual assault. Only 6% of sexual assaults are reported to the police. And false accusations of sexual assault happen no more than false reports of other types of crime: about 2% to 4%, which means 96% to 98% of the reports are true.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We now know two facts.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Justifying that men should wear these glasses in order to avoid a false accusation of sexual assault sure is something you can do.

    Since rape and sexual assault happen at much, much higher frequencies, wouldn't it make more sense to push that women should be wearing these glasses everywhere?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Thank you, I wasn't the person you were originally replying too and honestly just didn't know what you were driving at, but that really does connect the dots.

    Personally the idea of third-party to hold people accountable is something i am in favor in general. "Honor" societies sound and look miserable to me, with constant need for displays of power and dominance just to avoid brutality and the idea of justice being an impartial actor is a good thing to me. I do not trust the State currently to be that at the interpersonal level or Meta (or any for profit corporation) so they can't be a good impartial judge needed. So I think any person of any gender assigning them to be so like this is a bad idea, though maybe private storage might be acceptable? I still find that level of distrust for interpersonal relationship sad.

    I have and expect most women do, use a message location tracking shared with friends when meeting a stranger in a private or intimate way, so we am closer to that path than I really thought of before.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago

    A distinction needs to be made of false criminal reports, and false claims in general.

    False claims of any crime are going to be substantially higher than false criminal reports of the same crime. The barrier to entry is just much lower. And there is still a social cost to being falsely accused of a crime even without a police report. (Loss of employment, social alienation).

    It's also probably not true that it happens at the same rate as other reports. Certain crimes are more plausible to lie about than others, I would imagine false homicide claims are rare since there aren't mountains of dead people to pin on someone.

    In the case of things like sexual assault and child abuse, there is lots of positive sympathy to exploit for something that is almost impossible to prove wrong, so the cost-benefit is much better than most other accusations of crime.

    (Notice how often child molestation comes up in criminal defenses? It's an easy way to milk sympathy, while being impossible to disprove.)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Why weren't they wearing body cams prior if it's the real reason?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Probably the same reason you're not wearing one either. It's not a problem until it happens to you.

    I didn't want to have to put cameras all around both the outside AND inside my house either, but after breakins and vandalism the police proved to me I'm completely on my own. My insurance also dropped me after I tried to make a claim "without sufficient evidence."

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    If all these men are claiming all these women are out to get them and make false statements, they would have already been using every tool available, hence they would have been wearing some form of body cam prior to this. They are simply saying it now, because it's way more discreet to use these glasses and potentially use them for other purposes.

    If you are using cameras for some kind of defense, you make them loud and proud, not super discreet. They are designed to be a visual deterrent so the possible crime is less likely to happen in the first place.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    Given the controversy already present with "super discreet", wouldn't you expect even greater negative social pressure with "loud and proud"?

    It seems obvious that acting paranoid (regardless of sex or the subject of fear), results in negative views of the person, so they would naturally want to hide their paranoia.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    If they are honestly using it as a defense to false accusations, they SHOULD be ok with being loud and proud about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Saying "I'm taking precautions against you" is borderline accusatory. If this was the true reason no socially competent person would say this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Ding ding ding. You're 100% right that the people saying this aren't socially competent.

    Either they can't socialize normally, or they are using this as a smoke screen to justify being pervy. Or both. Probably both.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 month ago

    I could see that unfortunately. I've had the unfortunate luck to meet people (both men and women but more women) that to call snakes would be an insult to the snake.

    On a date though? Listen, keep an open mind, and cut bait if they do something that betrays your comfort zone. Avoid compromising situations, you don't know them, that's why it's a date. No matter what you have to open up and trust just a little, and recording for legal and training purposes just ain't that.

    So imho, as a person that absolutely understands wanting help with social interactions and dealing with trust issues, I don't believe 99% men saying this is the reason they need the perve glasses on.

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  • [+] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    But you don't understand, being falsely accused of rape is much, much worse than actually being raped! They HAVE to wear these glasses to protect themselves from women! /s

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I really like to know what the point of wearing glasses on a date is supposed to even be? Is the whole point that you want this person to like you, how much recording them going to help you with that?

    Or is that too logical of a question?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    My mother bought me some sunglasses with a small built-in camera back in the 2010s. She got them mainly so I could record myself when I was skateboarding, which I thought was a super cool use case for them. But even back then, I felt weird about wearing them in public so they sat in my bedroom unused. Even as a dumb 19 year old, I could see how it was weird and could make people uncomfortable. I don't understand how we've gotten to a point in society where nobody gives even a shred of consideration to other people's personal space and privacy, and why the people wearing Meta Glasses don't feel like complete creeps.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    They're called pervert glasses for a reason...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I am so glad that I never got into the whole thick rimmed glasses hype.

    I wear Lindbergs as my daily driver

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I blame Kent Brockman.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I am not sure to understand the concept of a date in the US. Is it something you do with the ones you fear? And why would men be affraid of a date with a woman? And how could filming some part of the date prove that there isn't an unfilmed (or erased) part with an aggression? How something as simple and beautifull as a date can become so complicated and scary?

    I genuinely try to understand...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Please do not mistake my attempt at explanations as endorsements of the explanation.

    The line between comfort and fear is a sentence. So to the first question, sometimes. A date is about feeling out a person, so fear is certainly a part of the equation at times.

    Regarding a man being afraid of a date with a woman, probably due to a perpetually-online mindset that false-accusations are commonplace? That's the best I can come up with.

    In general, I think you're right to be skeptical, but hype and fear sell. Reasonable rationality does not.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I understand it is not your position, and thank you for your explaination.

    Here is a soluton for them, easy and free:

    Have the date in a public place, and avoid private places until there are no more fears on both side. Wait until each can feel knowing each other enough to be alone together.

    (I guess you don't need the advice, but some of them could read this...)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Other red flags:
    Man owning Meta glasses.
    Man using Meta products.
    Man

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