The Gamers Nexus video is pretty convincing, and demonstrates the logs and activities they're reporting. The LG response basically admits to half the things GN claimed, yet somehow LG says they're lies. I guess it'll work on people that only read headlines.
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They literally advertise the opposite to their advertising network, saying "we know everything that goes on in an LG living room"...
This article whitewashed the whole thing and accepted LG's angle, right up to reprinting their bullshit in full.
Such crap is entirely insufficient for a tech publication, "Tom's Hardware has not independently verified either the claims made by Gamers Nexus in its documentary or LG's counterclaims."
Why? Why did you publish and throw up your hands saying "we know nothing"?
Was there possibly some money involved? Don't want to piss off your advertisers?
I reviewed this Stephen Warwick's articles. He's a corpo shill.
Miserable excuse for journalism.
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Then prove it LG and remove the dark patterns from your consent opt-out
If they had any leg to stand on, they'd be suing, not putting up a PR front.
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Penalties and fines that have happened for breaking privacy laws has been too low for it to deter any companies making money off this that I don't believe them.
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KDE Plasma Bigscreen
I miss when TV was a vacuum tube and entertainment didn't take up our entire lives.
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I bet they can legally claim "the concerns" "aren't true".
Our concerns "don't matter" to them.
Privacy & safety are now a gated privilege for the social elite & most wealthy.
We all know every device with any way to contact these companies are sending increasingly more information about us, and that info is sold to the highest bidder.
It's crazy because if they allowed savvy users to cleanly opt out of everything, they'd still make a killing. Smart users who block ads and resist advertising and incentives have never really been a problem for companies. They aren't being targeted for the most part, they just don't want most people getting out of their web.
I also don't fully blame the companies. Consumers not only allowed this, they actively campaigned for it. For every company that has tried to push privacy, the Internet/populace has pushed back. Those of us who care are having to lie in the bed made by the rest because those companies that promoted privacy are starting to learn they have to adapt or survive. 15 years ago we literally had a phone made by a computer company and a phone made by an advertising company, and the right one didn't win... so now it's just following the trends the consumers demanded.
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Of course they deny! 😂 - We are spying on you, and btw installing adware without you noticing on our monitors, without telling you... we know that could cause you to not trust us, but really, you have to trust us now. Your concerns aren't true! (we don't like to phrase it to straight forward, that could cause legal troubles for the thing we don't do) 😆
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Bullshit. It’s true and they know it, as they themselves have put it: “We own the glass”
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GN's vid it was excellent, but it could be a little difficult for some laypeople to follow. Also, it's quite long if you haven't seen it.
The accusations of spying aren't solely against LG. They also make a very important point that smart devices are often compromised. LG just has the capability to spy on you whenever they want; that doesn't mean that they're the only ones who do it. So even if their policies have safeguards, and even if they try to argue for limited and constrained use; the other important problem is that they aren't the only ones who can use it. So can bat man.
This is why this feels a bit disingenuous to me, because while it's certainly implied that what they're doing is super creepy —and I think the vast majority of normal people would agree— I think that they're trying to mislead people into thinking that some of the demonstrations, which were what you could do with access to it, were intended to show what LG was doing opposed to what an adversary could do.
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as standard, ACR data isn't used for advertising purposes without consent
Consent presumably being a sticker that says "by opening this box you agree to the terms of service"
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If it's not true why is it in the terms of service
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(If the wake word is not recognized, no voice data is transmitted to the server; the audio processing for wake word detection is performed locally on the device and is immediately deleted.)
sure i am just going to take your word for it! /s
GN has shown they do a "full take" when you use the opt-out on your TV...
Sounds like something a spy would say.
They need to stop building these suspicious "features" no one asks for. All I want is a big, OLED dumb display that will last for at least 10 years. I don't need or want it to do anything else. Just push pretty pixels across a couple of HDMI ports.
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So will they sue in court to prove this? Of course not.
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Coming to a car near you.
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Prove it. Open source the tv software
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cani.rootmy.tv
Edit: corrected. Thanks person below!
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Sure
Steve is LARPing investigative journalism* and jumped on fairly benign stuff without understanding what half of it does and claimed it was spying. His main problem is that without knowing what’s normal you can’t tell what is suspicious. Hope he’s got enough money for lawyers since LG has a solid defamation case on hands.
* I dare anyone to say going to front desk at random Nvidia branch / office and asking for someone to provide a comment is normal behaviour of someone who knows how things work.
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