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RIP Palm and Nokia (swg-empire.de)
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[–] 29 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Nokia getting Stephen Elop as CEO was fucking stupid

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    it was sabotage by microsoft to force them out of the market. they bought the lumia trademark after nokia gave up.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yeah and remember, that happened at the same time as as Steve Ballmer at Microsoft retired and Satya Nadella took over, he was against the deal, and two years later the new company was shutdown.

    From what I have read, the Nokia leadership needed a shake up when Elop was appointed CEO, I absolutely believe that a shake up was needed, but Elop was absolutely the wrong guy to deliver it.

    A dream phone of mine would be the Nokia N950, it was a devkit for the Nokia N9, I played around with Meego for a bit, and it was brilliant, with an added keyboard it would have been awesome.

    I have had plenty of mobile phones in my life:

    • Nokia 3330
    • Sony Ericsson K700i
    • Nokia 5110
    • Nokia 8210
    • Sony Ericsson K800i
    • Nokia 5800
    • Nokia E7
    • Nokia E72
    • Nokia Asha 300
    • Apple iPhone 5S
    • Apple iPhone 6S
    • Apple iPhone SE
    • Nokia 6.1
    • Apple iPhone 12 Mini
    • Apple iPhone 16e

    The one phone I keep thinking of and missing the most is the E7.

    Beautiful phone, brilliant keyboard, great quality, sightly too slippery.

    It was my first big boy phone, I bought mine with my first paycheck, I bought it at Siba on Kungsgatan in Stockholm.

    It got stolen less than a year later, probably pickpoketed on the train...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Still dislike Microsoft for cheaping out on the later generations Lumia. Cheaper displays so the 950 didnt support Glance. Wth?

    I still miss my 920 tho. The Lumia 920 is only recently dethroned as my favorite (smart)phone of all time.

    Microsoft messed up badly in Europe by completely and utterly ignoring the continent. Nokia managed to gain a larger marketshare than Apple in both Italy and France at the time. With meaningful marketshares in the rest of Europe.

    Nokia was doing alright in several Asian countries Microsoft ignored as well.

    After the take over, Microsoft kept all their resources forced on the US market, failed and in turn lost the European and Asian markets.

    GG.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Unless you're willing to spend serious €€€, forget the N950.

    But both the N900 and the N9 can be had for cheap on the used market (at least here in Finland lol) and are excellent examples for a true Linux phone that actually works.

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    • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I had a Palm Pixi and loved it. Palm WebOS was an amazing OS that gave the industry a lot of what are considered standard features of phones today. You could also root it by just going into the settings and turning on developer mode.

    Palm’s acquisition by HP destroyed all of that. And to make matters worse, they sold WebOS to LG who now uses it to spy on people through their TVs.

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    • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    palm treo was goated, never understood why i would want to touch the screen wirh my dirty ass fingers, i miss those pens

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Capitalism disinvented tactile feedback.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    No wonder I love my 1986 IBM keyboard so much.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The Model F and M were developed with the direct collaboration of professional typists, and were awarded the most comfortable typing experience. They are my dream board, and I want them.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The Palm Pre was damn right gorgeous, even came with a cheese knife built it!

    Jokes aside, the Pre is one of the most beautiful phones I have ever seen.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I look at the screen of my phone when it's off and 🤮

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    • [–] 24 points 1 month ago* (6 children)

    Bring back blackberries and physical buttons and linux and hookers and cocaine.

    And phones that don't shatter when you sneeze at them.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I bought a Fairphone 3 for the reparability but the damn thing just won't break! I don't think I've abused any phone as much as the FP but it just keeps chugging along without so much as a tear in the screen.

    I think it's because of the frame reaching half a mm or so above the screen and the battery cover opening up when I drop it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I think it’s because of the frame reaching half a mm or so above the screen and the battery cover opening up when I drop it.

    I don't know where and I don't remember when but I've seen some investigation that phones with detachable covers and batteries survive falls better because those moving parts disperse the energy of the fall better, instead of all the shock going into the next stress point - the screen or the glass on the back

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    • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    palm pre and nokia n9(00) my beloved

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    [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    V8g3Iwtf87W6WJ4.jpg

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    [–] 3 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Why is Leo Apotheker in this picture ?!

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)
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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Well, webOS is alive and well... It just became the shittiest spy-TV ad-ridden cancer in existence at the hands of LG...

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Waited nearly 8 minutes only for the request to "time out". I have never had a poor experience with Anubis and, in fact, they've all been night and day better than anything else out there, until today.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Huh, I didn't think this one would go over Anubis at all. I'll take a look at it.

    It's just a meme GIF from the Godfather where he says "look how they massacred my boy."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    Not sure. But that gif is perfect lolol! Thank you for describing it!

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    No idea how you got to Anubis. Image downloads are specifically exempt from it. Just opening the images URL should not even let you touch Anubis.

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    • [+] -6 points 1 month ago* (5 children)

    Hot take: Android is a better

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    was

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Still is in many ways. I'm not sure sure if you've used a Linux phone recently but they have worse security and usability than anything Android has to offer.

    Custom roms like Lineage OS offer a much better experience. It would be cool if Android was a bit more open or there was an actual alternative but for now AOSP based systems are still much better

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yes, and how do you get to LineageOS? Bootloader unlock (a complete pain on most brands, if even possible).

    Then there's the whole Play Integrity thing messing with your mobile payments, biometrics in certain apps, or complete refusal to work (funniest/most stupid example being the McDonalds app).

    Then there's the whole thing of being unable to relock your bootloader for added security because damn near no one supports Android Verified Boot. Relocking means bricking the device.

    I should make a bigger effort to write down the things I'd miss from Android if I left...

    I do love my ROMs though. Lineage can be a bit lacking in features and customization for my liking. My favorites are EvoX and crDroid, they're good at basically everything for a "heavy" ROM. PixelExperience was the bomb while it was going. RIP 🫡

    I've been keeping my most recent phone (my first flagship) stock for peace of mind, but the siren song of real customization and AOSP is calling me...

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