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[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 30 points 2 months ago

And I salute your action of inaction! 🫡

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[–] morto@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I even ask myself if ignoring them and leaving them to the irrelevance they deserve would be a better move than giving them the free "advertising" and probably even boosting their ego.

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[–] wezzzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

I would agree if they did not have that much oil money backing them this kinda needs to be talked about imo

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm right there with you. If anyone asks me about it, my response is "imagine that Arch Linux and OpenAI were going to have a child, but they were both doing too many drugs and alcohol, smoking 3 packs of camels per day each and lived near a garbage burning field in a Saharan country, Omarchy is the material resulting from that miscarriage".

There's just too many good Linux distros out there for me to even entertain the idea of ever giving that shit a chance.

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[–] undrwater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

"That sounds...dramatic! I may have to check it out, just for the train wreck!"

"Pre-configured Arch with agentic AI baked in."

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[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

*with a CLAUDE.md

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 child)

Donate to KDE and Gnome and your favorite linux programs!

[+] vivalapivo@lemmy.today -8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

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[–] fxdave@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

They are, but for some reason their only hobbies are contributing just to hide rainbow in the about. We can live with that 😄

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 month ago

This is good messaging. I’m glad someone is making it explicit. I’ll bookmark this page and share it.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 99 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Yeah, don't use Omarchy, not sure why anyone would need to since there are versions with more stable support and a myriad of other free options for every niche. The site lists many great reasons not to use it, that is appreciated.

I don't use Cloudflare but I'll say that's probably the hardest service for people to leave because it's been the easiest to set up and forget.

Now my one gripe. The People to Avoid category is a weird omelette that put together multiple lists of people and brands them all as fascists to avoid. It's a set of massive purity test retcons that are not productive because it mixes overt bigots (Yarvin) and Silicon Valley grifters (Dorsey) with people that are living foundations of open source who are accused of odd behaviour.

Is rms going around harassing women? Cuz the last talk I watched of him he was battling cancer. (I have read the Stallman Report, but as far as I interpret it he is just trying to make sense of normally taboo topics by writing it out, even if the way he writes it out people feel harmed or creeped out about it because it doesn't match today's accepted norms.) I wouldn't ask him for dating advice but I wouldn't hesitate to ask him for computer advice. Louis Rossman has an opinion that I believe is wrong, but not one he holds strongly enough that he would discriminate or disrespect a customer over it or let it interfere with the goals of owning goods you buy.

Yes, question the questionable parts, but to avoid them altogether is excessive IMHO, each should be taken case-by-case.

Everyone, without exception, is flawed in certain ways. While there are people that make their flaws their whole identity, which you should avoid, for those who don't, you have accept to a certain degree to achieve solidarity and accomplish things bigger than themselves. That degree doesn't have to be charitable as me, but my opinion is that lists that make it seem all equally bad is disingenuous.

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[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If those individuals want to distance themselves from a Nazi movement, they can do so. They can put out statements clarifying their association. RMS battling cancer is an extreme case.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Right in the paraphrased quote declaring Rossman a transphobe he doesn't care enough to be trans-exclusive, in fact I'd argue the main point is that the culture war is stupid and unproductive, he'd prefer to be inclusive because it's irrelevant, that seems like clarification to me and it's the author muddying the waters up with the bad paraphrasing. His organization FULU is funded by an organization called FUTO led by someone who is a loose acquaintance of a fascist supporter (fixed). I know almost exactly how Rossman picked up some chud-like opinions, it's because he got bullied and screwed over so hard in New York, not from any other relationship. No evidence has been presented that he has anything to do with Omarchy, MAGA, or right-wing fascist movement, including that comment.

I want people not to confuse some latent opinions with a lack of integrity.

The full comment for context

I have my own idea of what a man or a woman is that I am going to guess is different from the politician in question. That being said, bringing this shit up all the time is absolutely counterproductive and useless. Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Imagine if I was talking to a politician who weighed 400 pounds and agreed with me on an issue that mattered. And let's say that person did not like being referred to as fat because they do not think they are overweight. Would it be incumbent upon me to point out that they are fat? What benefit does that do for me? If this person is trying to help me not get screwed over by companies that lie and cheat to get laws passed in their favor so they can rob us blind, it's not really important in that moment that I point out that that person is in fact obese. What their personal belief of "obesity" is is a useless discussion that has nothing to do with my own actions and identity.

What people choose to do in their own homes or what they choose to call themselves is their business and is not something I care to discuss.

What matters more than that to me is what people tell me I am not allowed to do in my own home with the products that I bought and paid for. That is an issue that is much more important to me.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Rossmann has worked with FUTO, but his organization is FULU Foundation.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for the correction. Is this right now? I want to represent it as faithfully as possible.

His organization FULU is funded by an organization called FUTO led by someone who is a loose acquaintance of a fascist supporter

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[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I’ve been to a few conferences and talks where Stallman was in the audience.

He often spoke up and asked why things weren’t free open software, even after one was explained how it would be a non-profit educational web service.

He wasn’t wrong, but he was often a dick about it.

He also rarely had shoes on, just socks. At least around the MIT campus in those days.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz -5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

No no no, you don't get it.

Everyone to my right that I don't like is a Nazi.

Everyone to my left that I don't like is an ultra.

People around the same political position that I don't like are all trots.

If you disagree with me you're gas lighting.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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[–] elixir_fan@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago

Everyone to my right that I don’t like is a Nazi.

No, nazis are nazis. If you argue for ethnic cleansing the bare minimum you can expect is some pushback, no one owes your opinions any respect as a baseline.

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[–] frmrm@peachpie.theatl.social 19 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Omarchy is a distro in the same way that I’m a fighter pilot because I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

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[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 3 points 1 month ago

Great allegory! It's a distro in the same way that Bob was done with his homework by having handed in Alice's copy of it and called it a day.

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[–] Maragato@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago (8 children)

People use Brave even though Peter Thiel is one of its main investors. People use Brave even though it was created by Brendan Eich, a homophobe and Trump supporter

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago

I had the sense that the general consensus in the inner tech circles is that Brave is bad and Firefox is good.

Its the outer ring of the tech circles still privvy to Brave.

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[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Brendan Eich, a homophobe and Trump supporter

Even worse, the creator of JavaScript
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[–] lepton64@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Even worse, he has ties to the Dark Enlightenment.

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[–] SquareScarletCougar@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah but is it a reason not to do anything? Some people don't care, some are unaware. For the last ones we should keep pushing for making tech landscape a betted place for everyone

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[–] M137@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

The vast majority of people don't know that or couldn't care less about it, who's behind it isn't even a thing worthy of thought for many. It's sad and sucks but it's the truth.

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[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Nope, not everyone uses Brave

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 month ago

Most people using Brave have no idea of those facts I'd bet.

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[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 1 point 1 month ago

More interesting example: people use Firefox despite Google being main donator. I know it's more complicated, but yeah, Mozilla wouldn't survive otherwise.

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[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Oh Omarchy is "agentic" now? Is there a change they can point to that made it so?

Also the phrase "agentic Linux for the age of agents" makes my brain bleed.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It comes with claude.md and some skills. Basically nothing you can't setup in 15 minutes and a claude prompt on any linux distribution yourself. They claim "because omarchy is just text configs llms understand it very well" when all linux and all distributions are configured through text.

Agentic linux is awesome though but you'd bave to be brain damaged to do it on mutable distro.

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[–] someone@lemmy.today 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

So you're saying atomic fedora linux and just giving an agent lots of access is safer than omarchy?

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, immutable linux can be made much safer. With overlays none of the projects compete for config so agents are much less likely to introduce bugs and access important context by accident basically just by reading explicit immutable configs. We're rolling everything on nixos now and it's really good. Immutable linux has basically won imo.

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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago

agentic Linux for the age of agents” makes my brain bleed.

It makes your brain bleed, but apparently it also makes money flow

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[–] sevenoverthree@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Aside from this dickhead and his shitty worldview, the OS is nothing more than a curated experience with what could be some fucking awful and dangerous AI implementations. I don't understand how people with any modicum of tech literacy wouldn't pass on this fucking thing INSTANTLY. I have always had mixed views on networkchuck, but to see him pumping this fucking thing up was pretty much my tipping point to writing him off completely.

And regarding DHH... I don't know how you could listen to this guy talk, and not get the Euroid sociopath vibes. Plus his little harem of fanboys are presumably gonna be jumping in at this point. It's just fucking gross. I passed on this months ago, and I will continue to pass.

[–] Glaedr304@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Network chuck is someone I really liked when his channel was small, but once I realized he was posting videos that were 5 minutes long with a 1.5 minute ad plug, I was done. He always posts software that is just a free tier of something when there is probably a free and good option instead.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Yeah, I'm on the same boat. Shit, I would even drink coffee at his pace when watching his videos. He's dropped real low in the lat year or 2.

Then there's Tom Lawrence for networking. Objective, each tool has it use case and he will push nothing, basically just voice hos opinions and why. Like if Louis Rossmann was all about networking and way less angry 🤣. Full disclosure, I fucking love Rossmann, my wife hates him.

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[–] sevenoverthree@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

In this chapter of American deregulation, Rossmann is truly doing the fucking Lord's work.

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[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I believe the ones pumping it up are the "AI bros" and "tech bros" AKA non-technical folks. These types don't actually have the skills or knowledge to put together something like this themselves so they rally around Omarchy because that work has already been done for them.

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[–] sevenoverthree@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah and sprinkle the whole thing with agentic AI that can have root access for these people... It's pretty damn yikesy lol I think a lot of people are gonna get hurt, unfortunately.

Just thinking of the poor bastard with the giant obsidian brain that has been the pride of his life for the past 5 years.

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[–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Nice comprehensive overview of why this piece of slop called a "distro" and its backers should be boycotted, thank you! Gives me even more motivation to finish up mine today.

[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Compiling a kernel? 😀

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[–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm making my own distro rn, announced it a week ago here and will likely release today or tomorrow! https://pu-239.org/ https://lemmy.ml/post/52307735

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[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

‘Oh come on!’ was my initial reaction, but I’ve read your website, and thought: ‘hey, that sounds nice!’

I’m not going to migrate all my Arch boxes (basically all my x86/64 boxes), but I may use it somewhere else, just to test the idea.

I loved the idea of Atomic Fedora, but it did not work seamlessly, and to my experience, it did the opposite: worse than a regular Fedora. I needed to babysit it, and also it didn’t auto switch the previous working system for me. Perhaps it’s me who missed something. As an idea, though, I think that’s what should click to a normie: you tell them to install this distro, get your handful of apps as Flatpaks and forget about the system, as it manages itself.

To keep this topic alive, let me ask you a question: how would you know what’s a working state, so you need to return to the previous one? Does it mean it didn’t boot, or anything else? Just yesterday, I had faced a weird issue: my old trusty MacBook Pro serving as a server now, had no WiFi (it has Ethernet port, but temporarily I cannot use it, so it’s wireless). The broadcom-wl driver switched to linux-headers, which I didn’t have installed. I don’t remember me changing anything, and fortunately that was an easy fix (with an external USB WiFi card): just install Linux headers, and it would rebuild itself. So I’m just curious whether it’s even possible to find out a stupid issue a normie user may face.

On the other hand, perhaps the distros like this are meant to be installed by someone skilled to then be used mostly unattended by a regular user.

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[–] yxc999@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

‘Oh come on!’ was my initial reaction, but I’ve read your website, and thought: ‘hey, that sounds nice!’

Haha, I know I know, yet another Arch-based distro in this economy, but I really feel like this does fill a gap, thank you for your interest!

On the other hand, perhaps the distros like this are meant to be installed by someone skilled to then be used mostly unattended by a regular user.

My aim is to make this both appealing for the normie who just wants to use it like "SteamOS but with CachyOS speed" and run Flatpaks on it AND for the more experienced user who wants all the benefits of Arch but with a little more peace of mind.

how would you know what’s a working state, so you need to return to the previous one?

As the website explains, it automatically falls back to the last working state if it doesn't boot, but obviously it can't detect if something is messed up but still booting like in your example. In that case you just reboot and manually select the last working state (wip but kinda working already) just like a BTRFS snapshot, BUT it only rolls back the system itself, NOT your files. A BTRFS snapshot will also roll back your documents or whatever so my system, when it's stable and tested, will be superior in every way to BTRFS snapshots.

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[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 months ago

This looks amazing! Thank you for your contribution! :D <3

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (18 children)

That is a fantastic page, well cited.

Also dang, I didn't realize Jeff Geerling was so conservative about homosexuality and abortion. Pretty disappointing.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

Bit of a shock to see several people on there.

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[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah. If there is somebody that was/is a part of my life, I vet them personally though, following both the links given in this page and "google" them separately. I want to make up my own mind.

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[–] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone [S] 2 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Yah, Rossman too. :(

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Read the comment cited against Rossman and judge for yourself:

Rossman's supposedly 'transphobic' comment

I have my own idea of what a man or a woman is that I am going to guess is different from the politician in question. That being said, bringing this shit up all the time is absolutely counterproductive and useless. Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Imagine if I was talking to a politician who weighed 400 pounds and agreed with me on an issue that mattered. And let's say that person did not like being referred to as fat because they do not think they are overweight. Would it be incumbent upon me to point out that they are fat? What benefit does that do for me? If this person is trying to help me not get screwed over by companies that lie and cheat to get laws passed in their favor so they can rob us blind, it's not really important in that moment that I point out that that person is in fact obese. What their personal belief of "obesity" is is a useless discussion that has nothing to do with my own actions and identity.

What people choose to do in their own homes or what they choose to call themselves is their business and is not something I care to discuss.

What matters more than that to me is what people tell me I am not allowed to do in my own home with the products that I bought and paid for. That is an issue that is much more important to me.

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[–] verily@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I don't think it's possible to argue Rossman isn't some degree of personally transphobic (for context, his video is about Brianna Titone, who is the first openly transgender state legislator elected in Colorado, and he is clearly referencing some degree of disagreement with her identity).

That much being said, he's highlighting, to conservatives in his own audience, the fact that he wants to be both respectful and actually look beyond those personal beliefs to affect positive change. And based on his larger corpus of work, I don't think that's dishonest in any way.

Rossman doesn't use his influence to lobby against trans rights. I don't even think anybody would have known he had some personal issues until he mentioned them in a specific example that encourages people to set their own issues aside, for a positive cause.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Precisely. Showing a basic level of respect to work together doesn't require agreeing on anything.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago

I don't see how his comment is transphobic. It just seems reasonable to me. Maybe he's really transphobic, but his comment just says that we should care about the matter we're talking about, not the identity of the person who's talking

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[–] OilyArena@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I read that as "I don't accept trans peoples gender, but will act like I do if it benefits me or my cause", is there another interpretation I'm missing?

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[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

it’s more “i won’t argue or discuss it at all because it has nothing to do with me or my cause”, not do’s or don’t

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

No, he's not one to pretend, he's saying that what he or anyone else thinks about trans people just not relevant to him in virtually everything he does, fixing devices or supporting or rallying against a trans politicians' position on other issues like technology.

To give a separate example, does Alice Weidel's sexual orientation have any relevance to your opinion of the German right-wing fascist party leader? No, it's similarly irrelevant, and I can make assumptions, but you don't have to tell me you support or oppose gay marriage to know that.

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Which is true, but his opinions are still transphobic lol. I don't hate the guy for this, but let's not pretend he's not transphobic.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

Yeah I can agree he has transphobic opinions, but they seem to come from a place of ignorance rather than hate because it's not worth spending his time over.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

That's the part I don't get, is there worse then the quoted text that they said or?

Pretty benign comment imo

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[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah that’s pretty transphobic, and it’s weird that he felt the need to make that long of a statement when he could have just said the last bit.

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[+] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml -14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I don't know about the sources. If you read some of the sources, for example DHH's own words in his blog posts, while you find conservative grievances which is certainly fair game for disagreement, there are no smoking guns of far right behaviour.

The comparison of omarchy's design philosophy is particularly egregious. The philosophy is opinionated software. What does consuming a product without being in personal control of every single detail have to do with politics?

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[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

supporting tommy robinson isn't far-right enough?

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[–] refalo@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago (1 child)

This is what he actually said:

That frustration was on wide display in Tommy Robinson’s march yesterday.

He didn’t even say anything about Tommy Robinson or his politics, he was talking about a march.

Regardless of anything else DHH said or how you feel about it, I have not seen him voice any support for Robinson.

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[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

the amount of lies is interesting from your part.

Let's go to the awfully fascist page https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 , search for "Robinson" and... 2 occurrences. the first being what you quoted* ("this frustration" referring to

So I get the frustration that many Brits have with the way mass immigration has changed the culture and makeup of not just London, but their whole country.

Then the second times shows

Which brings us back to Robinson's powerful march yesterday. The banner said "March for Freedom", and focused as much on that now distant-to-the-Brits concept of free speech, as it did on restoring national pride.

And for good reason! The totalitarian descent into censorious darkness in Britain has been as swift as its demographic shift. [...]

So... he didn't say anything about Robinson's politics? You surely see only what you want.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

...The heck happened?

I've been under a rock for a bit.

Explain to me: why is there so much hype (and controversy) around some Hyperland Arch Linux config, within like a month? Is this some astroturfing thing?

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

Disclaimer: I only know bits of this story and am missing details.

Creator vibe codes configs, makes a "distro"

Creator says fairly fucked up things online, effectively a "dog whistle" gathering right aligned attention and money- and a quite a lot of it.

Begins hiring similarly minded people, claiming "the money will be spent" on the distro

All of it wreaks of BS.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Kinda feels like OpenClaw and a few 'trends' before that.

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[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 13 points 2 months ago

Positive polarization: a lot of rich people are donating a lot of money to it, maybe (probably?) because the creator is well-connected and the OS makes lots of references to AI. Negative polarization: The creator has bad opinions, and the OS is very AI-forward.

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[–] KernelTale@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago*

They bought coverage. There is 0 reasons to use Omarchy over well.. about anything. It's like using Ubuntu despite Mint existing, but they also lack reputation, are evil, have had relatively many vulnerabilities in a short time frame, and have shady backing. I refuse to believe that anyone who promotes Omarchy daily drives it nor does not receive monetary compensation.

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[–] T4V0@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Probably the digital ocean donation.

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[–] lepton64@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 month ago

Because every linux youtuber and their mom is making a video about it. And when you add buzzwords like "Agentic" and tell everyone that Omarchy is the future and will bring about the YOTLD, normies start flocking to it.

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[–] madeofpendletonwool@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is The Primeagen also a garbage person? I've always thought of him as pretty down to earth and real.. But man he's been making them rounds with DHH lately and getting heavily involved in Omarchy