Lots of countries have their own social media platforms. Only China will jail you for posting questions like "how much do our leaders make?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ding_Jiaxi

Only Russia will jail you for posting "I disagree with the war."

Only Iran will jail you for posting "I think women should have more rights."

You're being solipsistic.

Nobody talks like this. Nobody in the real world says this. I know you're capable of talking without using 5 dollar words to obscure logic and escape from an argument in a cloud of poor reasoning.

Not everything you disagree with based on personal whims is "propaganda."

That's right. But we're not talking about whether or not Captain Picard is the best Star Trek captain. We're not discussing disagreements on personal whims. We're talking about whether or not an unelected state apparatus with the power in the hands of a handful of rich elites should have total control over everything you're allowed to see and say. That's propaganda. That's what's going on in Russia, and Iran, and China. And probably America soon, the way they're headed with Trump.

Why is it you are aware "no you" isn't a compelling argument, and then proceed to make a "no you" argument?

You make bold declarations like "the US's propaganda apparatus existing for centuries longer, with far more money behind it", with absolutely no evidence or sources to back up these claims.

China does not target people who undermine socialism. It targets people who undermine capitalism. People like Ding Jiaxi, who called on Xi Jinping and other top-level government officials to lead the way in dislosing their financial assets.

Trump supporters in Red leaning states also have extremely high approval ratings for their leader, this is evidence of the efficacy of propaganda, not democracy.

An unsourced image comparing China to America proves nothing to anyone, other than the fact that you are locked in a propaganda campaign to manufacture consent for a new cold war.

I agree that meaningless sloganeering is not an actual way to understand the world. So why do you do it? Do you accuse me of "whataboutisms" while engaging in them yourself in a Trump-style tactic to dismiss any such accusation as more "no you" arguments?

The Chinese are not Marxists, and they do not seek the truth, they bury it.

It's good that you read about the subpoena of BreakThrough News and the attacks by Marco Rubio on the DSA, PSL, and even individuals like Hasan Piker.

Read up on Ding Jiaxi too.

You're dodging the subject. Israel has been fucking with Iran for decades, that's not the question. The question is why are you okay with Iran shutting down the internet to stop a women's rights movement?

Two things can be true. Personally I think women's rights are a great reason for insurrection.

I have always engaged in good faith. I don't work for republicans or Putin, I spend time and money organizing as a communist.

I agree with all of that except for the inevitability of repression in a society under siege. Yes, that is a historical trend, but it's also a choice that leadership makes, and it's the wrong one. If the Iranian government made concessions on women's rights, queer rights, etc. while holding firm on national sovereignty it would reduce the level of negative polarization the Iranian people have towards their government giving Mossad less to work with to destabilize Iran.

I've actually already seen this video, and it doesn't change my stance. Iranian leadership has a choice in how they respond to foreign manipulation and they do not have to respond with repression of their own populace for fear of their adversaries taking advantage of social unrest when they could instead reduce social unrest by making concessions.

I do belive the DPRK is a legitimate socialist state, yes. The economy is worker run and controlled. They are incredibly poor, largely due to sanctions, but like Cuba they stretch what they do have very far. That's also why Cuba and the DPRK have such strong and positive relations, with Cuba only recognizing the ROK in 2024.

As for the idea that I use LLMs for any of my comments, that's false. I sometimes copy chunks from older comments if I have already addressed a topic in detail, but I have never used any LLM for any of my comments. No idea where this came from, other than the fact that some of my comments are longer, which really is just because I'm a yapper. I don't appreciate the baseless allegations of LLM use as a means to undermine my points, if you oppose what I'm saying, tell me directly.

I am definitely a communist and a propagandist, I agree with that. I believe socialism to be necessary, and devote time and money to organizing work and outreach. I definitely fit the definition of propagandist as someone deliberately trying to get people to become sympathetic to socialism and communism and join an org, but that doesn't mean what I say is incorrect either. It's all true.

If you disagree with what I have to say, tell me directly. Don't just lie to others about me in an attempt to undermine socialist talking points, it's enormously bad-faith to do so.

You declared I was "the prime example on how the tighter control on media (and social media) actually affects the populace" solely for the reason that I "list[ed] the three major US enemies". This is akin to how Trump supporters declare every criticism of Trump as "TDS", or how Israelis claim every criticism of their country is "anti-semitism". You can't shut down a conversation like that here, maybe on .ml, but not here, people are more curious, more prone to individual thought, more prone to asking questions.

Trump's word isn't gospel, his actions are too, like how he fought his own party to prevent sanctions being placed on Russia, or how they are the only country he hasn't placed tariffs on.

Exactly!

Libya had some of the highest living conditions in the region under Gaddafi. While it wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, it is now a failed state. The reason the US murdered Libya was because Libya was sovereign and preventing the penetration of US capital. Obama wasn't trying to kill a bad guy or anything, he and the imperialist class wanted to plunder Libya.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-neoconservative-hit-list-iraq-libya-and-now-syria-a-plan-for-global-us-military-supremacy/5407538

This was when retired four star general and former NATO commander, Wesley Clark, disclosed a plan circulating around the Pentagon in 2001 to attack 7 countries in 5 years. The countries named mirror the ones targeted by the PNAC group, as Iraq, Syria, Iran and Libya were all listed in addition to Lebanon, Somalia and Sudan.