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[–] 120 points 2 months ago (4 children)

TLDR: husband caught his wife cheating through the camera of a robot vacuum, then decided to start recording the affair to help his legal case. He won NT$500,000 but since he illegally recorded the affair he was sued back and fined NT$150,000 (or prison time if he wishes not to pay)

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Funny that you can sue for damages if your marital partner is cheating

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago*

    I suppose that has to do with privacy laws in whatever state/country… And whether or not they have been updated for modern considerations… Or persist to protect an individual’s privacy regardless of modernization… It all depends on one’s perspective.

    I say all of this, of course, without knowing the specifics of the case, nor the specifics of the local laws in question.

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  • [–] 127 points 2 months ago (28 children)

    The man from Taoyuan, Taiwan, was sentenced to five months in prison for unlawfully recording intimate images.

    His suspicions eventually led to a discovery on Christmas Eve. The husband accessed a robot vacuum at the property remotely through an app, intending to communicate with his wife using the device.

    Instead, its live camera showed that another man was there, and he then activated the recording function, capturing footage of the two together.

    It wasn't for catching her cheating, it was for unlawfully recording her having sex.

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  • [–] 70 points 2 months ago (27 children)

    On one hand - yeah. On the other - perfect evidence for the divorce case.

    I mean, it's not like he deliberately set up a hidden camera to record her having sex. Just used an already available camera, that presumably she knew was there, since you usually buy that kind of stuff together.

    Without this recording she says she didn't cheat, he cannot prove otherwise, and money and assets get split unfairly.

    Not necessarily saying this is how the case should have went. It's just another angle to look at the situation from.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    No, he literally got in legal trouble not for catching his wife cheating, but for illegally recording her.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 months ago (24 children)

    He got in trouble for obtaining proof of her cheating, without which he may not have won the settlement that he won.

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  • [+] -26 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    There are other ways to catch cheating that don't involve illegally recording someone without their consent.

    The fact that people in here are trying to justify crimes against this woman is wild. Cheating doesn't strip away your rights or give permission for a spouse to abuse the other for cheating.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not disagreeing with you or justifying his actions. Just presenting the other side of the argument.

    I'm curious though. How would you propose he catch her cheating, including proof beyond reasonable doubt, that would guarantee a similar settlement or better?

    In the end, he got a nice settlement, but had to pay back a little less than a 3rd of it back for the recording. Sounds mostly fair, though I'd make it maybe a 5th or less instead of a 3rd.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    How would you propose he catch her cheating, including proof beyond reasonable doubt, that would guarantee a similar settlement or better?

    If there is a start recording button there is a stop recording button, he could have tried to avoid filming during sex perhaps. Maybe there are other camera's in the house, or a video doorbell.. but generally I agree on this: it will be his word against her without any proof, the proof won't be proof when they're just in the same house at the same time. What's also weird if he would have entered the house and caught them having sex he wouldn't have invaded her privacy. If I were him i'd be upset I had to pay money but relieved to be receiving some and if i were her i'd be upset I had to pay money but relieved it could've been worse.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (19 children)

    Please explain how you'd feel after the partner you are married to cheats on you, then sends you to jail for several months.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (13 children)

    Christ, Lemmy really is going downhill. Someone is making an argument of fact, and you're making an argument on emotions.

    These are clearly not the same thing, yet you're still here making bad faith arguments.

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Just straight up justification for abuse from this user, my goodness.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

    yeah, cheating isn't abuse that leads to long term psychological damage, go cheating lady, that's E M P O W E R M E N T! Go get them gals! No one can get evidence of you abusing a partner mentally, giving them trust problems for decades, since you're fucking someone, and that's fantastic!

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    what is your goal, what are you doing in this thread?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Now I'm pushing back on your assertion that abuse is justified when there's cheating. You leave the relationship, you don't get permission to abuse your spouse.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    how do you leave the relationship while not being financially abused, which is abuse, if you are getting a divorce with no evidence of cheating?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    He could've recorded plenty after the sex happened and still have proof without violating sexual consent.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    Your honour, my client is there talking to a friend of hers. It's *current year* are women not allowed to have male friends?

    yeah, sure.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Your fantasies about murdering women are going to catch up to you.

    Hopefully before you actually harm someone.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    what fantasies? How are you a feminist(?) and don't understand that some places are putting laws about "femicide" to prevent that kind of murder?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide

    If men have to resort to vigilantism in these situations, it leads to femicide. If I state that, how does that make me have fantasies about murdering women?

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    That doesn't allow me to start recording them having sex without consent, same as it doesn't allow me to hit them just because I'm angry.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    I'm imagining them coupling and the robot vacuum just chilling in front of them the whole time and moving with them as they switch rooms.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    He probably thinks it sucks

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