I'm the one who's stupid? I just broke it down for you plain as day and you're still doing the exact same thing I called you out on.

The whole point of the disclaimer and infographic I showed you was to demonstrate that social democracy and democratic socialism are different things.

That was after I originally called you out on conflating them, which you only posted in response to being corrected, yet without admitting that you had been wrong in the first place. And by the way, the infographic itself was flawed, which I pointed out, and you refused to address.

And a red herring isn’t a fish, you clearly have no idea what the term means.

Actually it is a fish. It refers to a bloody herring that hunters used to use to train their hounds to ignore irrelevant scents that might distract them from their game trail.

And I explained to you exactly how and why what you're doing is a red herring. Accusing me of not knowing what it means as logical fallacy isn't going to help you.

I have neither demonstrated nor used a red herring.

Yes you have.

Stop accusing me of using logical fallacies when you don’t even understand what they mean.

Clearly I understand them better than you do. And no, I won't stop calling you out on them as long as you keep using them. You're not very good at formulating rational arguments if your only response is "stop calling out my fallacies!"

Moreover, I have explicitly admitted that AOC is a democratic socialist, and that she can also accurately be described separately as a Democrat and as a socialist. Are you actually disagreeing with that, or are you going to call this a logical fallacy as well?

"HIJKLMNO!"

No, I never disagreed with that. So now you're also making a strawman argument by accusing me of disagreeing with this correct yet irrelevant fact that you inserted into the conversation to try to deflect from your original error. So yes, it is a logical fallacy. It seems most of your arguments are.

Your whole point from the beginning was smugly condescending people for referring to democratic socialists as socialists, and claiming they don't know what they're talking about. And to support your argument, you conflated democratic socialism with social democracy.

In other words, YOU WERE WRONG FROM THE START, and attempting to change the topic of the argument is no way to save face.

And oh my god dude, you don't know what a Motte and Bailey is.

Yes I do, and it's what you're doing by attempting to change the topic of the discussion. You claimed democratic socialism and social democracy are the same things. Multiple people told you you're wrong. So then suddenly your argument changed to "AOC is a democratic socialist." And you started acting like anyone arguing with you must be disagreeing with that. That is a textbook motte-and-bailey.

A red herring is a logical fallacy where someone introduces an irrelevant topic or argument to distract from the original issue rather than addressing it directly.

That's exactly what you've been doing.