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[–] 169 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You’re shockingly close to the plot of The Matrix.

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  • [–] 143 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Me in 1999: Really? This is the peak of human civilization? Everything sucks though.

    Me now: Maybe they were onto something

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  • [–] 90 points 2 months ago (23 children)

    OK, but we demand IRC instead of AOL-IM.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I want Pidgin or Trillian so I can talk to my friends on both MSN and Yahoo.

    Also shoutouts to the brief period where everything was xmpp and Gmail could talk to Facebook and self-hosted.

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    I think the problem is that all the other chat services that they used to connect to closed off their connection protocols. Can't serve a bunch of shitty advetisements if users aren't using your website or app.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Just one open source free platform would be fine. IRC with modern protocols for pics and video that can be viewed in the chat app of your choosing. Keep it simple, or add backgrounds. Mini chat boxes, or transparancy. Basic low resource use, or heavy, you decide, same open cross app platform.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Both. Pagers with LCD or eink only. No LED screens.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    OLED. Can still use modern advances in practical tech. Can still have open source, modern kernel linux, modern ram and low power 3nm chips. Just keep all the tech simple and clean of marketing and addiction. All the good, less of the bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    And Domino’s instead of Pizza Hut

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    How about a non-chain? Local pizza places still thrived in the 90s. That was one of the best parts of the 90s. Wal*Mart was slowly killing off mom-and-pop shops, but it hadn't finished yet, so there was a lot of variety and still a lot of craftsmanship in general.

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    [–] 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Can we keep the "no smoking inside commercial establishments" policy at least? Otherwise I'm down.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 months ago

    This is how you accidentally start a Gen-X commune.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Take me back to the time when I would finish before the bottom half of jenna jameson even manages to load

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I hope it doesn’t include 90’s racism, homophobia and transphobia. It was way worse than it is today.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Really, you have the opportunity to recreate the past and I’m stuck with AIM? I’ll stick to XMPP and IRC thanks.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    IRC is the shit. I remember wasting so many hours as a teenager just shooting the shit with random people.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    If someone is going to run with this idea, I very sincerely ask that you please do it in one of the locations marked on this map. Then my company will be able to operate a 1990s-technology cellular phone network in the proposed neo-Amish town, a network that will enable 1990s GSM cellphones to actually work! And I do mean it with full seriousness - the linked website is my actual company, with all attendant legal and contact info.

    Out of the set of locations marked on the linked map, I strongly prefer the ones in Oregon. I and the rest of my founding team are based in California, and I am a trans woman - hence certain places are, quite sadly, simply unsafe for to me travel to, let alone the intricate tasks of building towers, installing equipment and then operating and maintaining it. There are no PCS spectrum vacancies in our home state of CA, but OR is close, has good spectrum available, and it is a lovely state with strong LGBTQ+ rights.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    How did they manage a 2 G website‽ Amazing!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Please elaborate on your comment. What do you mean by "managed a 2G website"? The technology we advocate for, whose proper name is GSM but which is more commonly referred to as 2G because it is a "second generation" cellular tech, is a voice call technology that has nothing to do with websites or Internet.

    Or are you asking how we put up a website for our non-profit company? If that is the question, then I don't see what is so mysterious: our website is currently just one HTML page, simple enough to be hand-coded in vi, and that method is indeed how I made it...

    Or are you asking how we managed to create and run the actual company behind the website? Now here the answer is extreme devotion and dedication, my friend! I gave decades of my life to GSM technology, in my previous project going back to 2011 I sought to design and build my own GSM phone handset, hence I have just the right combination of qualifications and dedication to pursue my new/current idea of building a replacement network for the one that was wrongfully shut down. Just earlier this month the evil overlords of T-Mobile USA shut down their nationwide GSM/2G network; while everyone in r/vintagemobilephones on Reddit only cried and lamented, I gritted my teeth and kept working.

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    So um is this just millennial retirement? Boomers are getting their senior communities we need our own communities

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    That's basically the premise of The Matrix.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    It's really fucking sad that Pizza hut is seen and remembered in any positive way in the US, it really shows how fucking bad you have it.
    A pizze hut opened in my city here in Sweden about two decades ago and it immediately became "ooh, this american thing everyone has heard of through movies is so bad that everyone has to go to it just to experience the unimaginable shit quality and taste."
    Even the cheapest street corner pizzerias we have are in a whole other universe comparably.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    The key there is that it is remembered in a positive way, not that people thing of it positively now. Pizza Hut used to be it's own thing, you would get deep dish personal pizza that came out on the cast iron pan they cooked it in. It wasn't the greatest thing ever, but it was good and different. Now, it's just shitty generic pizza and i don't know why anyone would go there, I don't think I've been there for at least 20 years now. It also used to be more like a restaurant, not a fast food joint.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    The Blockbuster glazing going on these days is more egregious in my opinion.

    I loved renting movies in general, but no one talking about how great it was was old enough to be an account holder with them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    '80s Pizza Hut is entirely different to modern (ie post 2000) Pizza Hut. They may not have been quite as good as the best pizzarias, but they were actually good. '90s is where the decline started, but they weren't "unimaginable shit" until the turn of the century.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Pizza Hut was never good but it was one of the conglomerations that led to a fairly universal experience. Everywhere had and has a Pizza Hut. It wasn’t limited to the northeast people that genuinely have access to good pizza. It was also generally a childhood experience, where one cared more about the other parts of the whole thing rather than the quality. 90s Pizza Hut was known for “book it”, a program that joined with schools. If you read a book you’d get a star, 5 stars meant a free small pizza. In a world not over saturated by gamification of every single thing it was pretty meaningful

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    20 years ago was 2006. As I understand it was still okay in 1996 though when I was negative three years old. Also the one near me is actually pretty okay, greasy slop but hey sometimes thats all you want.

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    [–] 15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    IRC and newsgroups, too. Self hosted websites and forums.

    I hate to be the regressive, but yeah…this was better.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I hate to be the regressive, but yeah…this was better.

    I am always a forward looking person but i agree with this. The '90s is probably the best time period for humanity. Other parts of the world had it bad of course, but the cold war was over and the economy was amazing. It was the second "Era of Good Feelings".

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    The '90s is probably the best time period for humanity. Other parts of the world had it bad of course

    I was going to say, "only if your idea of humanity was very narrow".

    For certain groups of people in the west it was great. But, for the vast majority of the world, it was much worse. We don't realize how close most of the world was to starvation as just a daily threat back then.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    At the very least, the West in the 90s had been more welcoming of migrants and refugees fleeing chaos and economic decline, such was the case with Rwanda and Yugoslavia at the time. The more prosperous nations had been willing to share the safety and prosperity to people outside. But now though? I can't say the same about the richer countries being more welcoming than before.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Part of the reason for that is that the rest of the world was so incredibly poor that only a handful of refugees could make it to the US. There was simply a lot less migration and asylum-seeking back then. It wasn't because people were better off. It's really because they were worse off.

    The rest of the world is now richer, and most of the world can afford access to a cell phone. That means they know about the US and how much better it is there, and can often find a way to try to slip through the border to get refugee status.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Instead of AIM, MeshCore. Cheap, off-net, encrypted, solar-powered, simple.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    every now and then i remember how eminently feasible it is to go completely off grid and still have remarkably many conveniences, if i had a friend group i would absolutely try something like this while camping.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Reticulum and HaLow please. Give me enough bandwidth to stream a movie from my house.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Ubiquiti p2p microwave links for gigabit speed backhaul. But that defeats the purpose of Blockbuster.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I like HaLow for the mesh aspect. 30mb mesh is pretty hot. Use BlockBuster for it's actual intent. But give us a 30mb channel for everything else. Brings us up to early broadband. nobody wants 200bps irc over LoRa. :) Blockbuster doesn't have music :)

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    But will it have LGBT Rights?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The 90s did a terrible job of that...

    But I feel like we could import some of the modern improvements, and improve on them even more. Like #metoo, lgbtq rights, and generally acknowledging and attempting to reduce/solve subconscious and systemic bigotry (racism, sexism etc)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    The last time I was in a discussion about the 90's it was a group of people agreeing that they needed to go back to the 90's because it was the best time, that it truly was the peak of human civilization... and I got downvoted for pointing out how homophobic the era was. I'm glad to see there's a different outcome this time.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    This guy is doing it https://openpath.quest/2026/i-am-retiring-from-tech-to-live-offline

    AI was the last straw. Have you heard of that island off India where the indiginous population kills any outsiders fool-hardy enough to land? They are doing the rest of us a favor by preserving a way of life we may need again someday, or at the very least should not want to see completely extinguished. A reminder. Never forget your roots. Here in Pennsylvania we have the Amish performing a similar function. Significantly less hostile, though still set apart, they bear witness to what was normal for all of us a couple short centuries ago: horse and buggy, wood stoves and lanterns. My intent is to be AI Amish, which means Internet Amish. Not 1780, but 1980. Neo-Amish. I'm fine driving a car and flipping a lightswitch, by which I mean that they don't make me into something I hate, which AI and doomscrolling do.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago*

    AIM? I think you meant to say "we use ICQ and everyone have a 5digit number"

    Ooh can we have a IRC server too? We need a place to coordinate super soaker fights. Where did the humongous super soakers with backpacks go?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm not. There were some awful parts of the 90s.

    It'll never be the same anyway. Something that a lot of legacy gaming servers has taught me is that you can't replicate nostalgic memories.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Black Mirror's San Junipero.

    It's interesting how so many virtual realities tend to offer the 80s-90s as the best world to be in.

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