Stop leading with the first sentence, you're giving it strength not being smart.

Okay, maybe you should lobby your local government for better public transport? Because let's be honest with you, you can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night.

If the patrons of bars and clubs only have the option to drive to your location and drive back, they're either not going to drink as much as they would, not going to visit as often because they're going to have to drop stacks on a cab, or they're going to drink and drive.

You can't have a healthy nightlife without public transport at night. The only places that I can think of if I can get away with having no public transport and having some form of nightlife are wee villages, because you can walk home.

If you want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport. If you don't want to invest in public transport, prepare to spend your nights drinking alone in your house.

Last time we did the smart thing and we stayed till first train in the morning. Was also cheaper to drink till dawn and eat shit in McDonald's than take taxi home 🤣

This is the most American takeaway I have heard. It's not my fault your country doesn't invest in public transport, resulting in dead cities with no third places, endless traffic, no walkability and it seems, from you, rampant snobbish classism.

Also you going home from a bar, a place that is famously full of drunk people, complaining about drunk people on the bus while you're coming home from the place where all those drunk people are coming from is a bit like complaining about fursuiters on the bus while you're coming home from a fursuit convention.

Also drunk people on the bus is 100% better than the alternatives, that is drunk people driving or zero bars in your city because their customers can't come home after drinking without dropping a stack just to get home.

Where I come from we invested in public transport, and when I say we invest in public transport, I mean we invest in public transport. Everyone takes the bus here, regardless of who they are, because It's the easiest way to get into town and back because the alternative is unviable and inconvenient, especially if you are going out on the pish. We have rich office workers on the bus alongside poor gig workers. And the nightbuses are used by both pishheads and night workers to get home or to work or wherever, and it's not too bad, not anymore annoying than pishheads at the bars at least.

America doesn't invest in public transport because they want to force you to drive, they don't want to give you the choice, they keep public transport either non-existent or useless, so you don't have a choice but to drop thousands of dollars every year just to leave your house. This has resulted in a situation where most American cities look like Glorified motorway junctions dotted with unwalkable housing estates and strip malls. No, that is not because the city was founded in 1950 when people started buying cars, most American cities were founded much older than that and had public transport systems, but got rid of them to force people to drive, literally demolishing the entire city to turn it into a collection of strip malls and steroids.

You want a healthy nightlife, invest in public transport and nightbuses. Don't want to invest in that, have fun with drunk drivers, expensive taxis, no nightlife, and drinking alone in your house because you can't fucking leave your house without a car.

I felt extreamly depressed to see all the weird, broken people around me, acting like morons.

I was going to give you shit, but then I realized this is exactly how I feel whenever I drive anywhere..

I take the bus regularly, it's fine. Heard this shit all my life, then lost my license due to epilepsy and thought "oh crap." Turns out it's fine and actually a great way to dodge giving a shit about where I park.

I get the bus and it's fine but maybe I'm one of those "broken morons"

This is something I'm to European to understand.

Not my fault your country disinvested in public transport to force your to drive, killing off third spaces for the enrichment of car companies.

Yeah. It's much classier to shit one's pants in the backseat of a total stranger's car. 💩👖

At least you get free breakfast buffet at strip clubs. (Or you did the last time I went to one more than 20 years ago.)

EXCUSE ME???? CHILDREN MIGHT SEE THIS???

Pretty sure lemmy doesnt track any engagement except votes.

People copy stuff from elsewhere. This is the internet. Blaming OP is just st*pid

Your use of the word shibboleth is a shibboleth

on lemmy?