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[–] 146 points 2 months ago (38 children)

Yeah, no, when someone’s secluded, they’re often put in an empty room without so much as a window, and given literally nothing to do, but sit there. Can’t even have a phone out. It’d drive me mad enough to quit, and the same is true of lots of people.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (24 children)

    Not legal in countries where you cant outright fire people. You have to get them tasks. No phone out wouldnt be enforceable unless they sit you in a bunker with no connection.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    It being illegal doesn't stop people from doing it.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Take the company to court and get a fat payout 🤷

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    People gotta remember that Japan isn't USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that's wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA

    I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences.

    Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol.

    On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting.

    Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (10 children)

    And then never get hired by any company again.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I should never fight for my rights. I might be perceived as somebody who fights for my rights.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (7 children)

    Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage.

    Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago.

    Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    Taking them to court is also realistic.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    Courts are now work culture, are they?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career.

    I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down.

    You have to pick your battles.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Is it? It's your boss' duty to provide you with work and they cannot dock your pay (outside of special circumstances) if they don't have work for you, but they can absolutely pay you to sit around and drink coffee in case work comes around.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Aren't they given a computer at least to "work" on

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Nope. The same happened In Austria with our ex-state owned telecommunication business; because it was state owned before privatization, they had quite a lot of nearly unfireable workers outside of extreme circumstances - state businesses often used "pragmatization" to secure people they thought weren't replaceable and to provide those people with security with a bit of a lower pay grade (at least it started that way - later on this system was ripe with corruption, using "pragmatization" as a bonus for people who were loyal to whomever).

    Those workers often had pretty high salaries in comparison to the newly arriving employees, accumulating pay raises for the last 20-30 years. And they didn't want to leave their jobs, because many knew that their skillset was severely outdated and they would struggle to get another job at 50 years of age. The new owners had no use for them because they simply were too expensive and the large amount of unfireable personell dragged stock prices down.

    So these workers had to come in every workday, just to sit in an nearly empty room for 8 hours - no work, no entertainment, nothing. Even the most lethargic person gets depression, anxiety and desperation after a few years of that. If you stopped coming in, they actually had leverage to get rid of you. If you called in sick, i heard of quite a lot of cases where they tried to make sure that they really were sick, because if not, it would be a fireable offense.

    One of my uncles was one of the people just sitting in the "Pool", as it was called. He was NOT happy, but he was one of the few people who actually still had some useful skills even in a modernized telecom company (there's always need for people who are able and willing to competently work on phone lines high up on poles, and at that time nearly every phone line was copper cabling, VoIP was just starting to spread), and later on was able to at least get assigned some normal work, but most people who were sitting in the "pool" surrendered sooner or later when getting offered a golden handshake.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    In Japan, thats the whole point. The business will do this to make you quit instead of them firing you. They have whack employment laws.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Sounds good in a way because you can take as long as you like applying for other jobs without losing your current income.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Often comes with a job title change and people notice those sorts of things in Japan.

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  • [–] 62 points 2 months ago

    fake: anon has a wife
    gay: anon is punished by his boss and likes it, which is clearly a euphemism for the forbidden but very kinky relationship between anon and his boss

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The entire not leaving until your boss leaves (who also must leave after her boss leaves) leads to a chain where only the CEO gets off first, leading to the really toxic 14 hour days. At least layoffs don't seem to be as prevalent there.

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  • [–] 40 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Be Japanese

    Have dead-end job in back of office

    No work to do, no upward mobility, no future opportunities

    Collect a steady paycheck every two weeks. Feels-Good-Man.jpg

    New PM takes office. Goes full MAGA nationalist. Picks trade wars. Starts fights with neighbors. Alienates people inside our own sphere of influence even.

    Oh shit, bros. Looks like its another All-Ramen month again.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    The new PM started on Oct 2025, clearly according to the graph the economy was already bad by then

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Her party (the LDP) has been in power (except for like 4 years) for 6 decades straight. Turns out classic liberals (ie conservatives) don't have any answers when things start going to shit.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I just looked it up and 26 out of the nation's 28 presidents have all been LDP. They have dominated since 1955.

    In other words, Japan has also seen tremendous growth under the LDP. So it seems a bit reductionist to judge the party based on the performance of the past 10 years.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Sounds fucking amazing compared to my life

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Yeah, you can't unsee Star Wars: The Phantom Menace

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    The sequel trilogy did a lot of work to make the prequels more bearable.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    It's not that the prequel trilogy somehow got better, it's just that it no longer is the worst trilogy.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children)

    The only thing I've seen of ‘Star Wars’ is ‘Attack of the Clones’, but I was thinking of watching the new trilogy sometime. Are you saying it's not worth it?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    To be quite honest, I didn't even bother watching them. But everything I have seen and heard about them convinced me that I made the right choice with it.

    But then again, that's just the opinion of an old grumbler. If you want to watch them and like them go ahead.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I think you mean 3 movies, right? Because that's how many Star Wars movies exist. There are 3 movies.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Boss can't fire me because i'm japanese

    well obviously this is not real

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    They expect to own you until the day you die.

    Interviewed for a job there. They asked how long I would want to work for them. Told them I'd absolutely love to work for them as long as they can host my visa, and I'd love to even become a citizen.

    That... Was not the right answer.

    The interview was over from them on.

    I still do not know what I said wrong. They don't allow remote work so... Do they want me to become an illegal just to work for them?

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    They can but it's unusual. They have an honor system and expect people to quit. They'll go as far as sticking people in a room with nothing to do and not able to sleep until they give up, essentially adult time out.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    WHY IS NOBODY CREATING MORE MEAT FOR THE MACHINE!?!?!?

    Politicians unable to get people to make fuck trophies because they can't afford crap, have to slave away until they're 70, return to a shoe box as a home, breathe polluted air from birth to death, and survive a burning planet.

    No idea why people don't want to pump out more than 2.1 units per woman. It's a total mystery!

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I agree with you but people who call other humans fuck trophies or crotch goblins are usually just the fucking worst most insufferable people ever.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    My entire message is filled with hyperbole and you go "all the other stuff is fine, but I draw the line at 'fuck trophy'". You're the type of person who will break up a peaceful demonstration because somebody wore the wrong clothes that day.

    The enemy of good, the friend of perfect.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    holy straw man.

    You don't think I should call human children fuck trophy's? You must be pro police brutality.

    Jfc I clocked you perfectly it seems.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    No idea why people don’t want to pump out more than 2.1 units per woman.

    People living in significantly worse conditions have historically produced significantly more children.

    But the modern post-industrial lifestyle discourages people from having children primarily because of easy access to birth control. That means you can fuck without risk of having babies. For young people, this is a no-brainer. Condom use, UIDs, and hormonal birth control have tanked teenage/early-20s birth rates everywhere it has been introduced. Combine this with good health care, globally, and many people no longer fear they will lose half their children to some infant malady or childhood accident. Low Child Mortality -> Lower Propensity to Have Kids.

    If you want higher rates of reproduction in your population, you need younger people having babies. And you need more people convinced that the kids they do have won't live to see adulthood.

    Say what you will about the current Trump government, but we're definitely moving in those directions.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Right-wing bullshit propaganda. Freedumb of screech for beta males who can't recognise they're being controlled by wealthy, Christian nationalists, but freedom of choice for women is a problem.

    The earlier women have kids, the greater the chance they will not have a degree, be successful earlier in their carrier and the greater risk of being controlled, and that's exactly your goal. You and your kind just want obedient, subservient women who don't talk back and suck your tiny stinky peckers when you need it.

    Keep your pedophile hands away from the kids. Grow a modicum of self-respect to stop bending over backwards to suck Epstein class dick and spreading their filthy propaganda.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Fucken hell, its not right wing to want a birth rate above replacement. I swear you people are hell bent on occupying the most unpopular positions of all time.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I swear you people are hell bent on occupying the most unpopular positions of all time.

    LMAO. yes, you pedophiles are occupying the most popular opinions of all time "fuck the kids (literally) and take away their contraception, mkay"

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know much about Japanese work or family culture, but.... Why does everybody hate you, including your wife AND kids? Either you're a giant piece of shit, or everybody else is.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    But what about your dreams anon 😫

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