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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (17 children) Take the company to court and get a fat payout 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 2 months ago (5 children) People gotta remember that Japan isn't USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago (4 children) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that's wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences. Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago My bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol. On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting. Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 2 months ago That's crazy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (10 children) And then never get hired by any company again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (8 children) I should never fight for my rights. I might be perceived as somebody who fights for my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage. Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago. Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) Taking them to court is also realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago In countries with half decent worker protections this is not a problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 2 months ago (5 children) People gotta remember that Japan isn't USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago (4 children) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that's wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences. Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago My bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol. On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting. Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 2 months ago That's crazy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago (4 children) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that's wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences. Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago My bad permalink fedilink source parent [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol. On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting. Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 2 months ago That's crazy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences. Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 points 2 months ago My bad permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol. On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting. Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 point 2 months ago That's crazy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (10 children) And then never get hired by any company again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (8 children) I should never fight for my rights. I might be perceived as somebody who fights for my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage. Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago. Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) Taking them to court is also realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago In countries with half decent worker protections this is not a problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (8 children) I should never fight for my rights. I might be perceived as somebody who fights for my rights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage. Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago. Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) Taking them to court is also realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 point 2 months ago (7 children) Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage. Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago. Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) Taking them to court is also realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage. Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago. Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago. Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (4 children) Taking them to court is also realistic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children) From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago (2 children) Courts are now work culture, are they? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 child) Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career. I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down. You have to pick your battles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atro_city@fedia.io 1 point 2 months ago* It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? 😩 I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago In countries with half decent worker protections this is not a problem. permalink fedilink source parent