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[–] [S] 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Jesus fuck the caliber of our journalists these days is so fucking embarrassing

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I mean he's a leftwing streamer. Not like he wrote the book on Democratic Socialism. 🤷

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I love how the conservative press is trying to make all DSA candidates out to be Piker clones.

    In 2024, Harris actually did campaign with Liz Cheney. Should we assume Harris' oinions are identical to Cheney's?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Or even that every political moderate knows Liz Cheney? And she was in Congress. Like, relative to other streamers on the left Piker is a big deal, but he's still just a guy who talks politics online.

    Next shocking revelation for Gayle: most people also don't know what the latest drama on Twitter is.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    She about to find out

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (14 children)

    Ok, I'll ask: Who or what is a Hasan Piker? Why is it relevant?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    He's a twitch streamer with media training and leftist politics. He's been stepping up with his community to promote progressive challengers to the democratic establishment for the past 7-8 years, really making headway in the last 2-4. He's also Rupert Murdoch's current obsession, so every right leaning network in the English speaking world is obsessed with him right now.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    He's a commentator and he's on the left. He has said nice things about China and calls himself a Marxist. He also has a scary foreign name, so he's basically the perfect bogeyman to tie the entire left to.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    First time I saw him was about 5-6 years ago. He was role playing on Nopixel. He now does political stuff.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Just another asshat social media celebrity. I think he tried to seduce kids by playing minecraft or something. Most of them seem to do that.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I'm not a Hasan Piker follower but what the fuck kind of comment is this? "I think I heard he's a pedophile because he played the most popular game ever and also most streamers seem to be pedophiles"

    Don't you think that's an accusation that necessitates a source?

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  • [–] -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Wait, he actually played it? I was just making fun of streamers in general.

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  • Literally the only thing I know about Hasan Piker is that he pisses off all the worst people in politics. And I am terminally online.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Most people don't. He's a weird and offputting perpetually online guy with shit politics that doesn't treat his dog well and I don't like that some people on the left are trying to push him down everyone's throats. No thanks.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    He's also very politically influencial to a non-insignificant demographic whether you like it or not. Feels pretty important to be aware of people like that as a politician.

    But this headline is bullshit clickbait. They DO know who he is, they said they don't know him personally.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I genuinely don't think the demographic that watches a weirdo dog zapper 10 hours a day gets out much or is politically or socially active. Most people don't know who Piker is and that's OK. If you don't believe me go to your local place where people are and ask a number of them if they know who he is. Politicians don't have to be in the know about every online streamer or even any of them. That's all Piker is.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    Should I reply to this comment or should I save my thoughts for when you move the goalposts again?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    I didn't move goalposts and no Reddit snark is necessary. I just don't think his political influence over constantly online children and man children counts for shit and politicians don't need to acknowledge his existence or even their opinions on somebody like him. I suspect that very few of his fan base votes or is politically or socially active offline.

    People keep trying to make Hasan relevant to the real world and he just isn't. People outside don't know about him.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    You sound like the DNC. Dismissing young voters is how we got Harris.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    Sick burn, Redditor. Young voters not being politically active and instead being abscent is in part how we got Harris.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    How did this turn from me saying a politician should be aware of people who are talking about politics to their prospective voters to you running out of insults?

    You've just been stringing together things that sound related but don't actually go against what I said.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Floored! I can't take it serious past that point.

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    [–] 47 points 2 months ago

    Aww the cheap shot guilt by association shit isnt working to smear every socialist-aligned candidate? Time to get new material.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I really have no idea who he is either.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    He's a mildly-popular Twitch streamer who's more open about his politics than most and he tends to be leftist. That's pretty much it. People can (and have) get into arguments over him and his views but you can say that about anything online these days. I think the reporter was just surprised that a supposedly popular leftist was unknown by another supposedly leftist political candidate, as if they previously thought we all shared the same hive mind or something

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    He's also been more prominent in mainstream politics in recent months, including doing interviews with journalists, using his platform to endorse candidates, (potentially) interviewing candidates on his stream, and generally being more visible

    (I don't know much about him — I only know this because I have a friend who is a scholar of the politics of fashion who was telling me that he's a super interesting case study in her field because he's apparently started wearing suits recently, and this has coincided with his edging into the mainstream)

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago

    That’s fine; I don’t know who any of them are.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Some dude that said we deserved 911 and everyone has been freaking out since.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't know that "we" deserved it but certainly our leadership did. Shoulda flown into The White House.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    We deserved it in the sense that we're responsible for creating the terrorists responsible with CIA interference in the middle east. That's what he meant but that's now how the right wingers hear it.

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  • [+] -15 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    He's said a lot more than just that we deserve 9/11, he regularly handwaves mass murderers... oh we have those here in .mlers and hexbear... hmm.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (7 children)

    Ah I see, thanks for clarifying

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    This dudes full of shit. Hasan says dumb shit all the time but he isn't supporting mass murder and he said America deserved 9/11 in the sense that the blow back was earned due to our foreign policy. He's apologized, he's clarified etc etc etc. It's bullshit talking point from ten plus years ago and people still cry about it even though it's factually correct

    America's involvement in Afghanistan and the middle east in general created the conditions that caused 9/11. We reaped what we sowed.

    Next they will say that he doesn't care that Jewish people were raped on October 7th while ignoring the context that he doesn't care what Hamas did on October 7th because it doesn't justify a genocide.

    It's all so fucking tired and annoying. I dislike stream bro rhetoric but I'm so sick of every other conversation I see online about dsa or leftists devolving into some shit hasan said thats removed from context.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    He bought a suit strictly because it looked like Chairman Mao's and sweeps for him regularly. This is recent you can look this up. Not at all removed from context.

    Edit: but the tankie squad is out in full force it seems

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    He bought a suit strictly because it looked like Chairman Mao's and sweeps for him regularly.

    Okay. Let me pretend that's the reason... Who actually gives a shit?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I'm sorry but the type of suit he's wearing doesn't make him anti-American. China has made a lot of advancements in the last 100 years. There's nothing wrong with respecting that.

    They have plenty of issues with totalitarianism the same way America does that doesn't mean I don't appreciate aspects of America's history and vice versa for China.

    Fdr put Japanese people in concentration camps, but if somebody wore a suit that was styled after a suit that FDR wore and talked about all of the amazing things FDR did. I wouldn't say they're anti-American.

    This isn't the goal post moving. This is people thinking that bringing up the type of suit the guy wears is stupid.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I know who he is, but don't think about him very often, because I regard him as a lightweight who's overly prone to histrionics.

    I'm more comfortable with the DSA than with other Democrats, but it wouldn't make any difference to me if Hasan Piker was included in that group or not. The right is trying to demonize him, but it's like a predator going after the slowest, weakest member of a herd.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    To be fair, that is what predators tend to do (especially the human ones now that I think about it...).

    Also, while I mostly agree with your assessment of Hasan and don't really pay any attention to him myself, he IS at least mildly popular (or at least well-known) on the internet in the sphere of political streamers and I think the reporter was just surprised that what their data suggested (roughly 1% of the American population follow him on some platform or another) didn't add up to what reality is actually like (this serious political candidate who probably doesn't go on Twitch that often, or at all, has never even heard of him)

    Overall, yeah I'm kinda surprised they even turned this into an article. Seems pretty inconsequential no matter what way you look at it

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The liberals are trying to make an example out of Piker... To intimidate influencers, who typically rely on ads and support from the establishment to survive, from attacking the status quo. Piker doesn't do ads, relying on his subscriber base to fund his career. So they can't control his messaging with money, and are trying to do it by making him radioactive to the candidates he would support. The ultimate goal is to take away support provided by Piker for grassroots campaigns, so those candidates will have to toe the DNC line, or risk losing support from the establishment.

    So regardless how you feel about Piker personally, or his views, it is clear he is trying to elevate progressive candidates so they don't have to compromise themselves for liberal support. We should all be supporting those efforts if we truly want to amplify a progressive political wave.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Nice to read thoughtful comments instead of the usual reactive crap too many people post.

    My interpretation is that the reporter was trying to set up a guilt-by-association gotcha, and it got deflected by the denial. That denial may or not have been entirely truthful. I mean, I know who Piker is, and I'm a septuagenarian code pig with a passing interest in politics.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Nixon won because she successfully organized local, black communities in Florida. Her popularity didn't come from association with national figures or politician but local ground work and Florida's disenfranchisement campaign of its black citizens.

    So for once Piker with his "young men" demographic just didn't matter.

    He's a fan of hers as she's anti-Israel and a DSA member, but that's about it. CBS was completely off base on this one.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    What I found irritating was that the interviewer started off by falsely claiming that Nixon had campaigned with Piker, and Nixon had to point out that she hadn't, before saying she's heard of him but doesn't know much about him personally.

    So get ready folks. Piker is the new Pelosi--the poster child that the magats and magat-supported media will do everything they can to portray as a boogeyman villain, and tie all Democratic candidates to, regardless of where they are on the spectrum of Dem political views.

    IMO this is where all the cries of "Socialist! communist! Left-wing extremist!" that repubs have hurled at Dems over so many years is backfiring on them. No one believes them any more. So now even actual socialists can run and repubs screaming that stuff doesn't have much effect.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Personally I can't vote for any politician who hasn't heard the cerebral political opinions of Glup Shitto.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    Angie Nixon? Gale King? Hasan Piker? Who?

    Oh, this is in Florida.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Floored by the fact Florida woman didn't know about a loud cringy nepo baby from California.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago
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    [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    He's some Twitch streamer that does political commentary, right? What's made him the new boogeyman?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Campaigning for DSA candidates, he has been quite active in the recent senate and house DSA wins.. There really isn't more to it than that. Maga and centrist dems have found it's easier to attack out of context clips than to attack DSA policy positions.

    I personally find the man incredibly grating, boisterous and unwatchable. But there is no denying he is the largest leftist platform with true influence on races.

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