proprietary tech
Ah, how solarpunk! /s
proprietary tech
Ah, how solarpunk! /s
Edit : I was wrong, vertical farming is as ground-surface efficient as horizontal.
"Proof" with a quick calculation for those interested
I compared numbers using batavia lettuce as an example. Those are yearly outputs in kg per square meter of sunlight, assuming central Europe.
For vertical hydroponics, I'm assuming a solar irradiation of 1'000 kWh/m²/year, a panel yield of 20%, and no other loss, that is 200 kWh/year of electric power per m² of solar panel.
1 kg of vertical lettuce needs about 8 kWh to power the lights (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/plant-science/articles/10.3389/fpls.2026.1783548/full)
So a square meter of solar panel should produce about 25kg of lettuce a year. This compares to 20-50kg/m²/year in horizontal non-light-supplemented hydroponics.
My numbers and assumptions could be quite a bit off, but clearly I was wrong with the 30x comment.
My old comment :
Vertical farming isn't very solarpunk though, it takes about 30m² of solar pannels to grow what could be grown on 1m² using direct sunlight. And I have not mentioned accumulators yet.
In my opinion this is the exact opposite of low-tech energy efficient developpement that solarpunk aims.
I do strongly support urban agriculture, if on roofs, using direct sunlight as energy source, and heated with the lost heat of the building below because that is simple and efficient (I would even call it elegant).
As climate change continues to make more of the planet's surface uninhabitable, this tech will become essential.
Even without profit figuring out how to efficiently and effectively farm tasty crops vertically is valuable!
This is good because natural disasters are about to happen to most countries due to the idiotic "hurry up and pollute" mentality of the after COVID era.
Its like nobody learned anything from the pandemics impact on nature. Things were looking good for a while. Now we have the biggest super elniño already at peak power about to dry everything to a crisp until winter or next spring when it will flip in the strongest La Niña ever which will bring snow, rain, tornados and category 8 super hurricanes.
I don't know if they can keep it up. As the economy worsens and belts tighten, I think luxury items like this will be dropped from people's lists.
Disagree. I won't buy anything else and the quality is exceptional and the price reasonable. I won't buy American at any price as GoodLeaf is a part of our food sovereignty.
Also, US produce isn't safe.
Dude a head of lettuce is 4 bucks at my grocery store.
I'll pay the difference, which isn't as much as it used to be, and I'm supporting novel food tech, sustainability, and I don't have to wash or cut anything.
Bring back 99 cent lettuce heads from the good old days of 2023 and I'll chop my own salads for sure.
I'm not so sure, lettuce and leafy greens like the kind used in salads (basically all of what goodleaf makes) are usually cheaply priced in comparison to many other staples like meat, dairy, dry goods etc. and are extremely seasonal goodleaf may be twice as much as those but it's also fully Canadian, all it's inputs can be Canadian too, doesn't have the same issues with contamination by natural means and methods (cough, Taylor Farms, cough) and is made year round unlike normal produce. In the middle of the winter i can have a salad that costs me 75c to $1 for a portion or with goodleaf it may be just 50c to $1 more to know I'm supporting Canadian eating healthily and am not going to get screwed over by a bad rain that washes fresh cow manure from a nearby field onto collected lettuce/spinach. From what I've seen when times get tough people tend to stop buying expensive meats or fancy imported goods and tend to buy more veggies/fruits/produce to stretch what they do have. for example maybe steaks are off the menu and instead they buy cheap chicken drumsticks or pork chops that cost a half to a third as much, and instead add a salad or some local veggies to their plate to stretch their dollar (fat least from what I've seen).
Honestly, this is the only lettuce my family buys now. Its Canadian and the quality is way better.
It's part of the vice market, which tends to do well in bad economic times as many people don't tend to reduce vice spending with discretionary spending reductions, though they might redirect their spending towards products that give more bang for the buck. Though in my experience, weed is pretty cheap for how long it can last, especially since prices have come below the black market prices pre-legalization.
Though that black market still exists with even lower prices now and lack of funds might push more towards it, which will probably lead to a ramping up of enforcement.
As a hater of vertical farming I have never doubted it could be profitable. I just doubt it can ever be environmentally friendly since light must come from someplace and either you are in the ground, you shade something else, or you use artificial lights. The last is most likely and that means more CO2.
generally its artificial lights but it uses ones that are just the wavelengths the plants need and then the idea is to use clean energy sources. in return you are using less land for farmland and growing it in a high density area so that you save energy on shipping. then also harvesting and such can use clean sources. I was sorta the opposite of you. I was jazzed for it but afraid it would not become cost effective.
Solar panels on the outside, crops on the inside. I understand your doubts but you should also consider that with vertical farming you need much less pesticides, which is a plus for the environment. It's also robust against heat waves and storms. In general, it's a reliable food source, much more so than traditional farming these days.
So are you a lettuce baron by inheritance, or did you just always want to be one ever since you were a kid?
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