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[–] 105 points 2 months ago (6 children)

That fucking spray foam shit is impossible to get off.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Is it hard to get off of a non-pourous surface? Seems like a razor blade would make quick work of it, particularly if the protective lens is glass or similar scratch resistant material.

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  • [–] 204 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    How could the cameras ID them? I thought they only read license plates? /s

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  • [–] 79 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    We should be careful about spreading this news around. It might trigger a wave of copycat attacks and significantly impair Flock's ability to go about their business of spying on everyone. And the more this happens the less likely they are to win new contracts, so their whole business could end up in serious trouble. So think about whether you really want to get these stories seen by lots of people.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    Be careful with the type that is meant to insulate walls, they spray a lot farther, and make a real mess. Be sure to wear PPE if you use this type. A full face mask is recommended.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Hear me out: Paintball projectiles containing expanding foam. Someone figure this out.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Two part epoxy? Two guns two types....

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You could have the 2 parts separated internally in the same ball (kind of like a cold/hot pack that you "crack" to activate). On breaking (or shooting) the barrier is broken and the two parts mix.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Like a Tide Pod, but spherical, and arguably even more dangerous to eat!

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  • [–] 87 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    naw, they didn’t do it. they were with me eating ice cream.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago

    Whoever they allegedly are, I saw them elsewhere at the time of the incident.

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    They were dressed in navy blue with badges, guns and cuffs. The call was coming from inside the dystopia.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What type of foam? Looks like Great Stuff. It's great stuff.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    That's easy to remove. It would be really sad if someone slapped some etching cream on the lense though. That's a non-removable, chemically permanent change to the glass.

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  • [–] 38 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    Causes severe burns that may not be immediately painful or visible.

    Is scary as hell to me

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Hydroflouric acid dont get it on you

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago*

    Our chemistry teacher warned us about this stuff. She told us that if you get it on you, don’t hesitate to call out immediately because you will not feel anything and think you’re okay until it’s too late and under your skin. And then it burns. So, so much worse than if you had washed it off right away.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    I used this in 8th grade to etch glass for art class.

    It's not as bad as all that. Just wear gloves and if you get some on you, just rinse it off.

    It won't start dissolving your flesh or anything and needs time to even etch the glass.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    O yeah, I actually saw some ICE agents nearby when it happened. How many would you say it would have taken to do this?

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Not that I imagine anyone is really inclined to help the police with their inquiries but given the fact that the police don't have any information I'm not sure how the public are going to help.

    Here's a crime scene there are no apparent witnesses and no fingerprint evidence, please help.

    What exactly did they expect to happen here? Even if somebody did come forward and point the finger of blame st someone, there's no actual evidence you could go to court with.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They were staying in my house in the Netherlands when this happened.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago

    It seems like these flock camera things are too expensive to maintain.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    you can help us by giving us all the location of the flock and axon cameras.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 months ago

    Just boys being boys

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Nah, we had a movie night when this happened.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    That damn Netanyahu if at it again!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I may be paranoid, but I’m starting to think this is some sort of test...why wouldn’t they just install 360° cameras. Like with Skydio lobbying the US government to ban DJI drones. It feels like they want us to take these cameras down. Is flock the only camera system in the US? Why are we so focused on flock cameras? Anyway, I’m off to the hardware store to pick up some expanding foam for a DIY home project in my garage.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    There are other cameras. Axon is another company that sells them, but their system only runs regionally, not nationally, which is why Flock was chosen in the first place. A bunch of towns are removing Flock cameras and replacing them with Axon, and a lot of people haven't heard of Axon so it goes unnoticed.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't understand how people haven't heard of Axon. They make Taser, it is literally their brand name for the device. They also make the vast majority of police body cams, and related systems for things like vehicles now.

    They're mentioned in the news basically every time something happens with their shit.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I know exactly who did that. I just can’t remember their names, genders or anything else important that may be helpful in getting to the bottom of this malarkey.

    Sooooo, reckon there’s that.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It’s ok another commenter positively identified the perp as Benjamin Netanyahu so hopefully the authorities can arrest him.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Too many people are going to "sneak up" on a flock camera just to have it ID their phone

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    Whoever it was, they were playing boardgames with me that day.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    So what have we learned in this "all surveillance, all the time!" world? You sneak up on things from behind. That sticky, hard to remove, expanding foam is not that expensive and is available everywhere now that winter is on it's way.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Nah, those cameras come with foam on the lens. Nothing to see here.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago* (4 children)

    I need this in paintball format.

    Also, would it be illegal to put bounties on dead Flock cameras?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Since polymarket (& friends) is now somehow legal gambling (due to its political connections), one could bet against the event of flock cameras suddenly failing, and then somehow lose that bet due to unforeseen incidents...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I don't think you can make expanding foam balls in your garage that would work. You would need to encapsulate the pressurized polyurethane and seal it in something strong enough to withstand the gun launching it. Just loading marbles on the other hand...

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago

    But the cameras only ID license plates right???

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    I fear that the obvious response to this is for flock cameras to to increase in number, so one can always be looking at another to see who's decorating it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    this is aweful but I need to know how aweful it is. like how much damage does this do. does it pretty much destroy the whole thing and it has to be completely replaced?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    Technically if this camera was yours and you didnt want to buy another, you could clean this off. It is a real mess, but, from their perspective its probably a replacement, also calling it vandalism hints at this too

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    I, "Don't condone this" 😏 :Metal bonding liquids and a hubcap. Then after they're disabled, go in and ram a rebar into the hubcap where the lens is. Just make sure you don't have a phone on you and wear a mask.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    oh no...anyways

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I can confirm that they were staying at my place at the time of the incident.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Definitely not the handiwork of an insulation crew. Probably best to move on to investigating pastry chefs instead.

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    It's probably a lazy guy with a drone that shoots expanding foam from a pressurized can dispenser. That's my wild guess.

    Or... This guy, but he's run out :

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago*

    Expanding … foam … 📝

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    You definitely shouldn’t cover them with plastic bags.

    Definitely don’t point high-powered green lasers at the optical element.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    laser pointers require direct line of sight, and if you can destroy a camera sensor with a laser it almost certainly isn't portable. so maybe don't try, so you reduce the risk of jail time.

    Edit: oops I was wrong, there are portable 25W laser pointers, they're just very expensive. Nice.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    A laser strong enough to disable it is certainly portable.

    If you’re talking about vaporizing it, then maybe.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    To get a guaranteed kill you'd probably need a dozen watts. I don't know of any laser pointers with that amount of power. 5W is doable but wouldn't guarantee a kill.

    Edit: nevermind, found some blue laser pointers with that kind of output. Even a 25W pointer. I haven't looked at laser pointers in over a decade so I was expecting much lower values. Guess I should've looked them up first.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Take a picture of the empty street and then prop it up in front of the camera sensor. I've always wanted to see if this actually works.

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