Germany's strict laws surrounding depictions of Nazis meant the game had to be altered, giving it an arguably more interesting story as a result.

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[–] 7 points 2 months ago

Didnt feel like applying that law to that afd advert, then?

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It feels a bit strange, to be honest. Because its been such a long time after release. If its this late, might as well not do it at all.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Old games are still being played. Might as well play them uncensored.

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    [–] 30 points 2 months ago

    So a quick rundown about that: Germany has strict laws when it comes to nazi symbolism and their glorification. It's strictly forbidden to show or present these symbols. There are a few exceptions though: It's allowed in a historical context (museums, documentaries, etc..) and in art (books, movies...). Everything else could land on a list of banned media or you could get sued for showing those symbols, if it's not in these contexts. Video Games weren't considered art up until 2018, when our ratings board, the usk, updated their policies. From now on, you could submit games with nazi symbolism and be rated by the board. (If it's not glorifying nazis). Many developers and publisher reacted by changing those symbols to something that was legal at that time in their games so that they could be sold. If they want to publish the original version, they basically have to apply for an evaluation of the original game. So technically, in most cases, they submit their original game for the first time, as RTCW did now.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Isn’t that one of the new games? I mean it’s called “Return”! I remember when Wolfenstein was 2D sprites and paper thin walls.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    I loved this game. Still remember my CD key, which is impressive because I can't remember shit.

    The multiplayer was excellent.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    What changed that they can release it now?

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    While Germany relaxed its gaming rules in 2018, allowing modern entries like The New Order to go uncut in 2019, Grey Matter’s 2001 classic remained stuck in censorship limbo until now.

    I guess the laws did

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Their interpretation did. Games now classify as art and fall under the art-related exception from censorship.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    And they still cannot glorify nazi symbolism. That'll still get you banned.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah. What this lawsuit in effect did is say "Games can fall under art and education. Publishers shouldn't think just including a swastika in a game is illegal, because it isn't. Just as a movie can include it, a game can as well."

    Of course, it still needs to not glorify nacism deliberately or inadvertantly. But it's sad that it took this long for this non-question "legal question" to have been finally asked in court, and answered with the most expected answer - and dare I say it - one more expected of past decades than this one.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago

    Changing the law as their neo nazi party rises in elections ?

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    [–] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I couldn’t tell you anything about the campaign but I wasted countless hours doing multi player matches with my brother, mostly the beach invasion map. I remember it being fun times but I’m sure it wouldn’t hold up if I fired it up now.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    That's why I can't take film/game censorship serious. The game didn't change, just the stupid rules somehow. Similar to violence in old games like Doom where the BPjM changed their mind justified by the shitty graphics and sound compared to modern standards.
    Additionally the whole "killergame" debate relating first person shooter games by "experts" and politicians was so stupid.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I actually don’t know if the rules changed, did they? It was just that the publishers of the time weren’t ambitious enough to be sure they could prove in court that “These uses of swastikas are for the means of depicting Nazis in a negative light”. Much easier to just sidestep the analysis.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I haven't looked further, if it is the case here, but social adequacy is a thing regarding evaluation of videogames since a few years: https://usk.de/usk-beruecksichtigt-bei-altersfreigabe-von-spielen-kuenftig-sozialadaequanz/
    Sure, nobody should allow a game where nazi culture will be praised. But if they are allowed as bad guys, e.g. in Indiana Jones movies, it should also be allowed here.
    Beside that, the Doom example and their argumentation in my last post is a real joke (and in my opinion symptomatic for the whole censoring arbitrariness).

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Campaign, multi player and then layer enemy territory were all gems.

    Back in my day I could one hop beach and end the match under a minute

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    You know as well as I, that I don’t have time to play it!

    A prison then….

    Return to Castle Wolfenstein immediately!

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    On one hand, the censorship was always silly. On the other hand, the current trends in Germany probably mean they're rolling back their Nazi regulations for all the wrong reasons.

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