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[–] 72 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

There's nothing hard to explain for historians of the future: it was the second gilded age that saw the buildup of the techno-fascist infrastructure by greedy billionaires - sorry, trillionaires - in cahoots with the government. Now get back in line to get counted citizen...

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  • [–] 126 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    grok is using delicious clean drinking water from the memphis sands aquifer for cooling. elon promised to build a water treatment plant in order to stop using drinking water but, and you’ll never believe this, he didn’t.

    fuck elon.

    please do not use grok.

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  • [–] 42 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    he did the same in germany. When questioned about the water usage of his tesla factory he gaslighted every1 by saying look here's water everywhere. Turns out, you can only extract so much water from the ecosystem and the inhabitants now have their water rationed. He doesnt give a flying fuck about other people.

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  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I think it's pretty easy. We let the rich rule our world, and the rich demanded this, and so a lot of people just let it happen through bribes.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Reminds me of how Britain starved India cause it forced them to grow tea instead of food for themselves.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 months ago

    Meanwhile we have commercials on the radio "debunking" the myth that data centers waste a ton of water. We're brainwashing the people, which is becoming easier as our braincells waste away using LLMs.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago

    One report estimated that U.S. data centers consume 449 million gallons of water per day and 163.7 billion gallons annually (as of 2021).

    That estimate was from 2021.

    Now it's at least around 600 million gallons of water per day.

    Corporate capture of our government has destroyed our country, and will soon destroy our entire way of life. If we stop all harmful emissions today, the planet will still warm for another 20-30 years before it starts going back down. 30 more years of hotter summers, shortened winters, extended hurricane seasons, extended and worse droughts/wildfires...

    The people that approved these data centers should be charged with crimes against humanity.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    We need to make evaporation cooling illegal. They can make a closed loop system like Nvidia uses but they won't, because it's more expensive. We need the law to force them to.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    What do you mean by "evaporation cooling"? A fraction of the water evaporates to provide cooling, a fraction is discharged as purge to prevent solute accumulation, and the rest is recycled? I thought the main reason that datacenters consume as much water as they do is when they don't recycle the water, and just use it once and then discharge it (no evaporation at all).

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago

    Future? Historians?

    You are funny.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago

    The worst part is all that drinking water is being wasted semi-permanently. Most of it then goes to the sea and becomes saltwater. Even if the US heavily invested into desalination plants right now - it'd take decades to potentially retrieve most of that.

    All that for... another economic crisis?

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  • [–] 30 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Per day? Per year? Per second?

    Sounds like a lot of water, but you can't just give an amount of water when you're talking about the rate of something.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Related Digital’s development of a $16 billion data center in Saline Township, Michigan is moving forward after they sued the local government in response to the locals voting AGAINST the construction. They’re just going to ignore the people’s vote 🫩

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 3 months ago

    Same thing is happening in TN right now where a company is trying to build a small data center next to a zoo. The city held public hearings about it, but basically told people it was already a done deal. The company threatened to sue to city if it didn’t pass.

    These things are a blight on our society. It’s a race to the bottom with profits coming before everything else.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    The drought statistic is true but the water consumption one is batshit insane lmao. It all comes form a press firm called Mordor Intelligence which hasn't meaningfully backed up that claim.

    AI datacenters are likely to not even breach 100 billion gallons BY 2028. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/08/datacenter-ai-drought-water)

    Obviously that's still a lot of water, but 264 billion gallons right now is an absurd claim.

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    The likely irony that these data centres will be used in the pipeline of creating a commercial for bottled water.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Not to mention the fact that AI companies aren't even profitable

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    New rule: no water cooling in DCs. Air cooling and air con.

    That and some hard rules on power usage would go a long way. If the US ever updates its infrastructure, and especially for power, that should open up new, safe options that don't kill or poison people.

    For the mean time, though, let's stop the insanity.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    That's quite literally impossible. The power consumption has gotten so bad that they need to water cool the AC condensers as far as I know.

    Oh and the fun fact is that they could just use closed loop water cooling instead of evaporating all that water away... But many don't because that uses more power and power is more expensive than water.

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  • [+] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Thanks for sharing stats. If we could convert 5-10% more of total grid to renewable energy it would more than make up for additional data center water consumption growth nationally.

    We’re obviously in the Fuck AI community but at least there’s one path to limiting the external damages.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    False! Tge fruit videos are the side project! The real project is undressing minors and generating them doing CP! If you don't believe me, just ask grok!

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    The future will talk in awe and condemnation about the scale of our beef consumption.

    The amount of water it took to grow the feed they ate.

    The amount of greenhouse gases it created.

    The fact that the land use required was the size of north america.

    The suffering that was required to inflict on the animals themselves.

    They won't mention data centers at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    How about you link a real source instead of some rando.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    If this article is correct i guess we can have AI fruit videos if we skip meat and dairy a day or two a month. https://veganhorizon.substack.com/p/ai-vs-animal-agriculture-the-numbers

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Have you looked at the record heatwaves hitting the world? We should be reducing meat and dairy and dismantling "AI" data centers. Trading one for the other is nowhere near enough.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    As it's always been, come on now.

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  • [–] -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    No they won't. We do this kind of thing all the time.

    The Egyptians build pyramids.

    The Babylonians build a tower.

    The people of Peru drew the Nazca lines. (very drought related)

    The people of the Chaco Canyon built huge structures and a large civilization. Then had to abandon it all during a epic drought.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaco_Culture_National_Historical_Park

    But the all time winner is the destruction of the Aral sea by the soviet union.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

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    [–] -4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Define "consume".. where does the water go, again?

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