I never really needed any justification, but ever since AI companies just take stuff illegally, and that openly, it has become my justification to just pirate the shit out of everything.
(Excluding indie games of developers I like).
I never really needed any justification, but ever since AI companies just take stuff illegally, and that openly, it has become my justification to just pirate the shit out of everything.
(Excluding indie games of developers I like).
We want to give developers agency over their source code by letting them decide whether or not it should be used to develop and evaluate machine learning models.
fuck them seriously; if you want to do that then don't steal the repositories in the first place.
Meanwhile at work we just had a training course that specifically said doing “opt out” instead of “opt in” violates the principle of informed consent.
Notice how a shit load of these people keep turning up to be rapists and pedophiles… They have no shits to give about informed consent. In their mind you don’t even have the right to the same agency they do.
not surprising since the venn diagram of ai bros and rapists is a circle.
Kinda hope it uses my code. It's so terrible there's no doubt it will make the resulting code from the model worse even if the impact is miniscule
I just opted out of all my repos except the God awful ones from middle and highschool. Those are basically prompt poison so fuckem
They cloned a few projects I’ve made that rely heavily on a library I also made, I’m only pulling out the library.
Unless I'm mistaken, this wasn't written by the folks that scaped GitHub in the first place, someone just wrote a small tool to semi-automate the process of searching the scraped dats, and submitting a GitHub issue to have it removed.
don’t steal the repositories
How is this remotely stealing?
It's not, but it may be violation of licenses. And also, if it has personal information on it, that's probably illegal under the GDPR.
but it may be violation of licenses
They excluded code with non-permissive licenses apparently:
Each file is labelled permissive (at least one permissive license detected, no conflicting non-permissive license), no_license (no licenses detected, or only non-license legal texts such as CLAs), or non_permissive. The permissive allowlist follows the Blue Oak Council list plus licenses categorized as Permissive or Public Domain by ScanCode. Files classified as non_permissive are excluded from both released datasets.
also, if it has personal information on it, that’s probably illegal under the GDPR.
It's all public so I would be extremely surprised if that were the case.
the method on github is to fork it not steal all the data in an external storage for external purposes without consent of the user.
edit: you can also report their whole account to github here: https://support.github.com/contact/report-abuse?category=report-abuse&report=bigcode-project&report_id=110470554&report_type=user
I'm pretty sure they just cloned the repos. That's how GitHub is designed to work. Have you never cloned a repo from GitHub?
Yes, but I used it under the licence terms of the original developer.
So have they. They filter by license - see my other comment.
so if you are licenced under MIT and they use your code, they publish your copyright header?
It doesn't seem that way. My list contains several repositories that don't have licenses, even some with GPL.
not for private for profit use from shitty ai companies though.....
A little bit infuriating since huggingface itself requires login to access a large portion of the content on their site
The best way to opt out is by not using GitHub. Also opts you out of Copilot and a bunch of other stuff.
Other git hosts are also getting scraped, and have had to implement counters because of it. For example, this is the kind of thing Codeberg shows crawlers. I've even seen people who self-host complaining about getting overloaded because of bots scraping their forge
note that former users would have needed to remove their GitHub data before August 2025 to not be in this dataset
When I back something up, I save a copy and add "backup" to the name... Because I'm advanced.
If I'm feeling really good and healthy, I'll even put it on a usb stick.
When I hear this company's name I can't get the idea out of my head that it's related to the face huggers from Alien.
A decade ago, if someone asked someone working on an Open Source project if they'd be ok with an AI reading their code and learning from it, they'd most likely say "yeah that sounds really cool!"
Somehow the tech-bros have fucked up AI so much that something that should be really cool seems creepy, lame, and nefarious all at once.
Making arguments from popular perception is never very strong. AI is cool if you actually think about it - the capability is incredible. Anything that can produce working code was going to have this ambivalent result where execs pushed it way too hard.
Yup, the idea is good. How this this idea is being implemented... not so much.
Simultaneously they have created the part I wanted from Star Trek, while making the worst possible anti star trek a reality.
E.g.
I want to be able to ask a computer about history, art, codeing, well anything. And be able to clarify and question and put together new ideas.
But not by anyone owning that ability or profiting on the labor of others or causing environmental harm.
We got the cool computer but haven't achieved the post-scarcity part.
I don't think you can have one without the other.
Post-scarcity isn't actually possible. Not even in Star Trek this is true. Picard's family owns a vineyard in France filled with artifacts and antiques. Not everything is fungible. People will desire these non-fungible things. Not everyone that desires these things will be able to have them, because they aren't fungible. You can't have a billion people all owning vineyards in France. Some people won't get everything they want. There will always be scarcity.
Star Trek was made in the 1960's at the height of the cold war. They didn't want the show to be about how capitalism was superior to communism, or vice versa. So they side stepped the issue by saying in the future there's no scarcity, no money, and they live under some ideal future economic model. The show writers don't know what that ideal economic model is, so it's deliberately vague and inconsistent. And that's fine because the show isn't about economics.
It was wise of the writers of Star Trek to avoid trying to make predictions of that nature. 300 years ago, Wealth of Nations wasn't yet written, the field of economics didn't really exist. They believed shiny rocks had intrinsic value. They had some vibes about things like currency devaluation and inflation, but economics was still mostly about acquiring shiney rocks 300 years in the past. So what will economics be like 300 years in the future? None of us know, and certainly writers of a TV show don't know.
The writers of a TV show saying there will be no scarcity in the future just means they didn't want to discuss economics. It's not any kind of prediction about the future. There will always be scarcity.
There have been periods of human history within some groups that did have no needs scarcity. Shelter, food, water, all there. Replenishing faster than they could consume it.
Star Trek addresses needs scarcity to a large degree, instead of want scarcity. Of course, the TNG makes it a little more clear that they can make anything you want, which who knows if we get there.
A good example would be do you have somewhere to live? Need Scarcity met. Do you want a high floor overlooking the Nebula? Want Scarcity, not always possible.
Of course it could be argued that if you could go multiple times the speed of light in a infinite universe you are likely to find something that you want.
People will desire these non-fungible things.
This is the case where if I were to replicate it, what would be the difference? Do you think if we got to that point we could intellectualize that the same molecules are the same molecules or not?
There have been periods of human history within some groups that did have no needs scarcity. Shelter, food, water, all there. Replenishing faster than they could consume it.
Which periods are these?
I'd say right now we have the necessary resources to provide for everyone's needs in the world. Providing for basic needs isn't a scarcity issue, it's a resource allocation issue. We aren't prioritizing providing for everyone's needs before providing for people's wants.
I'm lucky enough to live in a developed country, I have shelter, a fridge full of food, I turn a tap and I have potable water. It's all there for me. My needs are taken care of. I still think would be awesome if I owned a private island in a nice climate, with a big house on it and a pier with my own yacht I could sail around when I feel like it. But there's the problem, how do we determine who gets what they want? If I got the private island, yacht, etc. while you only had your basic needs met, would you consider that to be an equitable society?
Why does Picard get a vineyard in France while someone else has to be satisfied by whatever the replicator provides them?
TNG makes it clear that Picard values original artifacts. There's a scene where he assumes an artifact someone is giving him is replicated but then is told it's the original. He basically pisses his pants over it being a much too valuable of a gift. So no, in Star Trek people do place greater value on non-fungible items. You don't even think of this scene as unusual because of course people think that way.
Starfleet needed more starships to defend themselves from the Dominion. Do you consider that a need or a want? They don't have an infinite number of starships. Apparently building starships involved some kind of scarce resources.
Because they didn't have enough starships, a lot of people died. If we consider not being vaporized by a phaser to be a need, the Federation was not able to provide everyone's needs because of a scarcity of resources limited the number of starships they could produce.
Like I say, Star Trek is incredibly inconsistent about this. If an episode requires scarcity of resources so Nog can trade different things to different people in a fun episode, then those resources are scarce. If they need to use gold pressed latinum, they use currency. If someone asks "how does your economy work?" then suddenly "they don't use money, they don't need it because they have everything they want." And this is fine, if someone 300 years ago were to write some fiction about our time, it would probably be about people more Scrooge McDuck (who had a giant vault of shiny coins) rather than Elon Musk (who has no need for that because that's not how the economy works). Star Trek can't have a realistic economy, and it doesn't need it. We're just meant to assume it's broadly equitable, everything is fuzzy beyond that.
This is the case where if I were to replicate it, what would be the difference?
You can't replicate an infinite amount of land in France. You can't replicate an infinite number of private islands. People will value these things and they will be scarce. Why would Picard live on a vineyard in France instead of in a holodeck version of a vineyard if there was no value to the real thing?
which periods
Coastal peoples of California, Jamon of Japan, Puget sound Indians, Hawaiians, the Congo, and so on. Places where you have mild climate, hugely abundant food supply and easily worked materials.
I’m lucky enough to live in a developed country, I have shelter, a fridge full of food, I turn a tap and I have potable water.
You do, but I am assuming this all revolves around keeping a job or employing yourself somehow
I have had the discussion just like this "If I got the private island, yacht, etc. while you only had your basic needs met, would you consider that to be an equitable society?" with some people. Interestingly they often say, so? why would i want an island or a yacht? And if I did wouldn't I just go to the holodeck? Seems like a lot less to take care of.
Which brings us to this:
People will value these things and they will be scarce.
Do they? Or are we conditioned to feel that way?
But yes in the end Star Trek is just a fiction with themes at the core, not exact solutions or even realism when looked at closely.
Either way, my point was I want the computer with knowledge and not have that some how steal, hurt, take away from, get owned by, deprive anyone, or cause environmental damage. And my first thought about that part was post scarcity where no company would own any of this.
I mean they'd have been ok with it because tech bros were the ones automating other people out of jobs and never thought it would come for theirs.
The level of AI we have now was impossible science fiction a decade ago.
Much like... -reads notes- Microsoft is via Github... huh....
Gothub.com is a thing now for OpenBSD’s Game of Trees project.
We want to give developers agency over their source code by letting them decide whether or not it should be used to develop and evaluate machine learning models.
crawled directly from GitHub and built to pre-train code LLMs with full-repository context
Repositories that opted out are removed from the dataset before each patch release.
"agency"
Which AI company will not use v1 which has all of the data but will use later patch releases instead which have less data?
Since they stole my paper on ethics in computer science, maybe the model will learn to act better than its owners
I just followed the opt out link and they're making you open a public issue with a Markdown list with all your repositories you want removed.
Surely there has to be a better way to do this (probably the point).
Also why are they storing 4.71 TB in a Git repo? How are they going to deal with removal requests?
EDIT: It seems like they're manually responding to the issues, wtf? There's a perfectly fine GitHub auth system that they could use to verify everyone's GitHub account / repository ownership
EDIT 2: This is apperently a collaboration between Hugging Face and ServiceNow, why is my companies IT ticketing system scraping all of GitHub?
if I opt out, will the Roko's basilisk come after me?
Reported for cognitohazard. Delete this immediately.
(I kid, but someone really did report your comment.)
I think its hilarious that some people seem to actually take this science fiction variation on Pascal's wager seriously.
As long as you haven’t been told what you’re opting out of, you’re good.
No because your code is shit; you would be helping us reach singularity faster.
Am I alone in not wanting to put my username into that field? If they don't have it will they then just decide that it's now a good time to scrape it? Or are they going to record that it was searched?
Noteworthy: They crawled only the default branch HEAD and inlined all source content.
- The file contents are included inline. The decoded UTF-8 source text is embedded directly in the dataset, so it is fully self-contained — you can start training the moment the download finishes.
- It reflects the state of GitHub in August 2025. The corpus is a direct crawl of GitHub repositories at their default-branch HEAD, capturing roughly two additional years of open-source code compared to The Stack v2.
Pretty sure all my repos are MIT licensed for the betterment of everyone, but I'm not on the list! So I guess I'm not good enough, or they are failing to follow the attribution clause of it.
Strange because all of my MIT repos are listed - all the GPL ones are excluded.
Mine are all GPLv3 or forks of other repos and they are listed. I'm sanguine because the license allows for study and if it's good enough for humans I don't see why it's not for clankers.
For me, and a few other projects I checked, it only has non-GPL repos. But it also does not have everything that isn't GPL, despite the repos being much older than the cut-off date. But it does have repos without a license, which they are simply not allowed to copy.
I wonder if those repos have been deduplicated, and one of the forks (on some other person's account) is included instead. Unfortunately you can only search the first 5M records via the website, and I don't have time to play around with the API at the moment, so I could neither confirm nor deny that possibility
My dotfile repo is there and it doesn't have a licence. Meaning it's technically not open source. Didn't stop them
they can do whatever they want to do with my code.
as long as it's complaint to AGPL v3 :D
(doubt ai companies care about that)
They’re not able to scrape private repos, surely?
Microsoft has access, and everything is for sale. So, maybe? Probably? 🤷
No, it seems to only be a subset of public repo's.
I have like 65 repo's and only 13 were scraped. I don't get why they specifically scraped those though. They don't have the most stars, they aren't the oldest or newest, not the ones with the most forks, nor do I see a pattern based on programming language.
From the linked webpage readme:
2.1 Classify. Each file is labelled permissive (at least one permissive license detected, no conflicting non-permissive license), no_license (no licenses detected, or only non-license legal texts such as CLAs), or non_permissive. The permissive allowlist follows the Blue Oak Council list plus licenses categorized as Permissive or Public Domain by ScanCode. Files classified as non_permissive are excluded from both released datasets.
From https://www.bigcode-project.org/docs/about/the-stack/:
v1.1: The three copyleft licenses (MPL/EPL/LGPL) were excluded and the list of permissive licenses extended to 193 licenses in total. The list of programming languages was increased from 30 to 358 languages. Also opt-out request submitted by 15.11.2022 were excluded from this ersion of the dataset. The resulting near-deduplicated dataset is 6TB in size.
So MPL/EPL/LGPL are already not part of the dataset.
So… why were they in there? Was this added for v1.1?
"one permissive license" - So if my project includes a lib and I include the license file for that for the license notice…?
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