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The patriarchy don't respect the matriarchy unless in the presence of the batriarchy. Got it.
isnt it just thay you're more likely to notice someone dressed up, and the people around them whilst staring at your phone, instead of never looking up because the pregnant woman has normal trousers
What an interesting potential explanation! Guess you'll have to go out and test to find out. You could also choose less bombastic moral characters to test if the moral judgement angle is also true (like a priest with his tab removed)
Pretty sure that was the hypothosis the experimenters came to. Suddenly seeing batman out of the corner of your eye is way more jarring that it forces you to focus more on your surrondings.
Yes, but someone baselessly speculating is different than researchers conclusions, yes? And my response leads to deeper thinking about the possible explanations than thought terminating assumptions, no?
Also, no, subjects were more likely to offer their seat even if they didn't see batman, meaning it was seeing the change in others brought by the shocking individual that made others more cognizant of their surroundings, rather than needing to directly see the shocking stimulus. See? By trying to make their assumption fit the outcome, you missed information that was in the paper that disagreed with you. That's why curiosity is more valuable than needing to be right.
Can you not just correct someone without being passive-aggressive about it?
You just brought huge value to the thread and I've learned a lot about the study that I never would have gotten from the caption alone and I'm grateful to your insight about it. It's something that I otherwise wouldn't have pursued deeper due to limited interest, so why do you have to be so nasty about it?
Comrade, I have ASD and while I'm aware I'm perceived that way, it's either talk like this sometimes or never say anything ever again. I am constantly putting effort into not looking like a condescending ass, so think of how far I have to edit this shit before it comes out of my mouth in order for me to come off as slightly high and mighty.
It's honestly borderline crippling and I have literally driven myself mad over my inability to be understood before.
I'm a very jovial person and that comes across in my off-screen interpersonal interactions, but I can't get that to come across in the wild west of internet comments.
But yeah, I'm working on it. Sorry about the assholeishness
You seem very needlessly hostile to me. Is there a reason you're being a dick? Have I offended you in some way?
All I did was confirm that the scientists think batman appearing got people to focus more on their surroundings.
I think an easier experiment would be the same pregnant woman, but alone and she's wearing more eye catching trousers + shoes
(Easier in the sense that I don't have to do anything...)
Yes. This would be important to differentiate between the associations with the Batman character and an eye catching abnormality.
It would also be interesting to see what the impact of the Joker would be. If the Joker would also elicit greater propensity to offer the seat to the pregnant woman, once could claim that Joker, being the antithesis to Batman, similarly leads one to think of the imperative to offer the pregnant woman the seat.
Finally, another important variation would be another eye catching character specific to this experiment rather than one belonging to a fictional franchise.
This would allow one to more clearly differentiate the impact between the control (just the pregnant woman) with the introduction of eye catching costumes and with the pregnant woman wearing something eye catching herself.
Another important experimental design consideration would be to avoid repeat passengers between the multiple trials.
What? Why with the tab removed...? And also, wouldn't that just be someone in a black robe?
Probably because people are often too distracted, something that takes attention like someone wearing a Batman costume, would bring people attention to their surroundings
Right! I demand a retest with the Riddler
Why, of all of Batman's rogues gallery, the Riddler? I feel like the Joker would've been the obvious choice.
This actually really does sound like a good addition to the study. See if it's any different with a villain.
Batman takes the metro after a long night fighting crime. His feet hurt. He just wants to sit for a few minutes. Why is no one offering Batman a seat?
What if some crazy shit breaks out? Can't have Batman all relaxed and unprepared.
Dude, I want you well rested and ready to fight at a moment's notice. You get a whole bench if you want it. Hell, I'd even listen^1^ if you just need to vent; Joker has got be fucking exhausting to deal with.
- It's no superpower, but it's what I can do.
To be fair Batman has no superpowers either. Except being a filthy rich guy.
Not all heroes wear capes!
i want my batman relaxed and prepared for his fight.
we offer him the special, flushing seat the crackheads made. pregnant lady can pee later
Oh... uh, hmmm... gee... thanks?
we must have had less ingenious crackheads on our busses. Some seats had definitely been toilets but I don't recall any getting flushing mechanisms.
Looks like the "Put Kevlar specific glue on the seat" plan is a bust...
A while ago, I also heard of a study, where they had kids do a task until the kids would give up. And when they let the kids dress up as their favorite superhero, the kids would persevere much longer.
Obviously, the kids being in a better mood can be a factor, but if I remember correctly, it was also a conclusion that the kids persevered, because they thought the superhero would persevere in this situation.
You can probably tell quite well, when their mood falls off a cliff, but they still push on, so could certainly see that being a conclusion...
I wonder how they concluded that it was one over the other, I mean, unless you ask the kids. But that could change their thought process
I mean, I can imagine very well that you can just tell from their emotions.
Like, let's say this was their emotion timeline without superhero costume:
🧍♂️😃🙂😮💨❌
If they'd just generally be in a better mood, the emotion timeline would look like this:
🦸😁😄😃🙂😮💨❌
So, their mood starts higher, but there's the same rate of decline.
Whereas, if they persevere, it's more like this:
🦸😃🙂😮💨😔😑❌
So, similar starting mood as without costume, but the decline is only at the start until they hit the point where they would normally give up.
And then they muster the perseverance to continue, despite being in a bad mood from that point on.
Obviously, you'd need to formalize that, and not every kid will show the same emotions. But when averaged, I do think that gives you a scientific result.
Was it because of morality associated with a superhero? Batman specifically? Or was it just because normally people mind their own business and avoid looking around and qualifying one another until an unmissable weirdo is in their presence and they keep looking and only then notice the pregnant woman?
No, they are batman haters and don't want batman to get the seat.
Need to repeat the experiment but with someone dressed as the joker.
passangers looked up because they noticed the guy in the weird costume and then realized the pregnant woman which otherwise wouldn't have.
Wonder what specifically about Batman causes that? Would the same thing happen with Superman? Wonder Woman? Punisher? Would it happen with a child dressed as Batman?
they should have used Robin as a control. This is the problem with psychology studies calling themselves science. Maybe people are so self involved on their phones they didn't see the preggo but Batman distracted them.
They really should try a few characters, good and bad, in different areas so people don't notice.
I actually had to look for this to see if it's true, it was, but for some reason the article blurred their faces

Was it because they were dressed as Batman or because everyone assumed it was being videoed and didnt want to be recorded and uploaded as a stupid prank.
When people think they are being watched and recorded, they are more likely to polite. Dont need someone dressed as a superhero to do that part.
The number of people actually asking questions in here on Lemmy makes me happy. If I could, I'd give all of y'all each a cookie.
"sorry, I would give you my seat, but Batman's here and I want to skew the data"
It's a shame they only tested with Batman. I think there was a study about how people behaved more honestly in the presence of authority figures (even if just a photo of police is displayed).
I'd like to see the results if they dressed like Spongebob
I think that in thi case the effect is: "Wait, why the fuck is batman here?" looks around to see other peoples reactions "Oh wait, there is a pregnant woman, i gotta give her my seat"
While otherwise they would just stare at the phone, read a book or just think
The effect, for listeners who might not know, refers to the children's character "the Bat-Man" a strong gentleman who fights crime nocturnally
Just gotta say thats an extremely unconvincing pregnant woman
Let me get this straight, you think that your fellow traveller, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world, is openly a vigilante, who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and your plan is to refuse offering a seat? Good luck.
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