He's been broken since that diver rescued those kids rather than wait for Elon to build a cave diving submarine, and Musk's grown-up rational response was to call him a paedophile.
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It is like saying that you are going to remake Die Hard but make it more historically accurate.
That building isn't even in L.A.!
I’d watch a historically accurate Die Hard.
That building isn't even in L.A.!
Akshtually, that depends how you look at it. Yes, it isn't in the downtown LA, but it is located in Century City that technically is in Los Angeles (west part of it, on the border with Beverly Hills)
It was called Fox Plaza now it is called 2121 Avenue of the Stars
Let me guess, his main complaint is the skin tone of Helen of Troy?
Sometimes I want to try ketamine but then I see how Elon turned out.
Truly a curse worthy of any story
On the othet hand he is literally the richest person ever to have lived.
On the other hand he is so insecure and sad that not even the global billionaire pedophile ring wants him with.
It's amazing how it is never enough for him. He gets declared richest man in the world. But no, that's not good enough, I'm his mind by all rights he really should be worth more than everyone else in the world put together. Technically he was saying this about SpaceX when he was whining after no longer being a trillionaire, but you know it was triggered by his personal "downgrade" back to "mere billionaire" rather than some grand view of SpaceX unrelated to his personal ego.
it literally dumbs you down. when you k-hole it’s a weird feeling of being “detained” on the floor. i guess he has a dom kink if he likes it that much.
when you k-hole it’s a weird feeling of being “detained” on the floor
It's not like that at all
Could you describe it? Assuming you have experience with it. I love learning about that kind of stuff
erowid.org was a lifesaver for me back in my experimenting days.
Ketamine is a dissociative, so if you take enough to "k-hole," you aren't "feeling like you're detained" anywhere because you aren't feeling anything about your surroundings. It's 100% internal (and a wild fucking ride hahah). I prefer it to psychedelics because for me it lacked the anxiety and confusing "weirdness" that almost always comes along with those.
It is also very safe in terms of acute doses. Which is why we literally use it to sedate infants. It's only bad on your body (bladder) when you use it habitually.
You'd love the psychonaut wiki then! https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine#Subjective_effects
See "Experience reports" section for anecdotal examples.
Meh, lots of idiots use cannabis too, doesn't mean you should blame the drug.
Don't blame ketamine
When Elon says "historically accurate", what he means is "no black people".
Ohh, I'm sure there will still be black people. They will just be in the very specific roles of servants / slaves / cannon fodder.
Wouldn't slaves in Greece just be other Greeks and stuff.
Musk is making it. They'll be black. To match his version of historically accurate.
One of the most historically-accurate period movies I've ever seen is Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
"'ow do you know he's a king?"
"He hasn't got shit all over 'im!"
even at the time it was first told it was a fantasy story about a mythologized distant past. complaining that the Odyssey doesn't have costumes accurate to the time of Homer is like complaining that Lord of the Rings doesn't have Aragorn running around in a WW2-era English army uniform
Yeah.... This isn't about costumes at all. It's about casting a woman of color as Helen of Troy.
I generally don't like virtue signaling but I just watched Odyssey the casting was on point for the entire movie. Amazing performance all around and hated Elliot Page and Lupita Nyong'o did amazing jobs - these people are 100% just racists and bigots.
I'm a Greek mythology nerd too and this is by far my favorite Hollywood take in this niche!
I generally don't like virtue signaling
So normally, you'd be against this because casting a black person in a historically white role is "virtue signaling"?
Have you ever considered that the casting director chooses who they think is best for the job?
You're honestly telling on yourself when you call shit "virtue signaling." You're tacitly admitting that you could never believe that a person might be the best for the job because of their race or gender.
If it's used regarding something not related to race, you're admitting to everyone that you lack basic empathy, and therefore refuse to accept that others might have that empathy. "They must be virtue signaling, because nobody actually wants to help the homeless."
This "everything is virtue signaling" bullshit is for the birds. It's a thought terminating cliche that literally makes people racist and sociopathic
Stop. Do better.
So normally, you'd be against this because casting a black person in a historically white role is "virtue signaling"?
No, just other kinds of virtue signaling. I think re-interperting is perfectly fine as long as the context isnt something punching down like black face. I misspoke I guess but there are virtue signaling that is more akin to obvious rage bait but odyssey is clearly not it.
Ah yes, the daughter who was born when her mother fucked a goose and hatched her from an egg. Famously, all goose-born demigods must be white. Everyone knows this.
It's set during Greek Bronze Age/Mycenaean civilization. I guess the historical accuracy means portraying that period accurately within the frame of the fantasy.
the point is that even the original ancient Greek audience would not have had, nor been expected by the author to have, an accurate conception of what it was like to live several hundred years before their own time. historical accuracy has never been a necessary, or even intended, aspect of the work
I mean he probably assumed and intended them to be thought of as looking more like his time than the setting. So that could be another point of "historical authenticity", setting it to time period of Homer.
Some people just enjoy that sort of "accuracy" even in this type of work. It can be neat
Which there are valid complaints about costuming in that context, but that’s not really what the crowd whining about “historical accuracy” gives a shit about.
Like, if it were SCA nerds nitpicking dyes and fabric types, or armor construction - sure, that’s lots of fun. As someone with an interest in textile history I do get annoyed by the fact that the last decade of filmmaking seems to have deprioritized making pretty costumes and everything looks so cheap nowadays.
But that’s not what right wing chuds are complaining about. They don’t actually give two shits about historical accuracy (consider how popular 300 is with that crowd…) Odysseus could have a fucking lightsaber and they wouldn’t care as long as everyone was white.
How does the CEO of so many corporations have time to fuck around with stuff like this.
Cause CEOs don’t really do anything. All the work gets delegated to other people.
There’s much speculation that Musk’s companies tend to work best when he sticks to attracting attention to them (which he actually does quite well, I guess) but he keeps his nose out of their technicals and business.
And… well, he attracts attention by doing controversial stuff on Twitter.
Being the biggest troll possible is literally his job.
Thank GOD! AFTER that I HOPE Elon and Child Porn Producing GROK can make a HISTORICALLY Accurate MARVEL DOOMSDAY! I'm TIRED of seeing Wokeness RUIN History!
So he's gonna include achilleus in drag and getting fucked by patroclus, right?
Right?
100$ says it'll never happen. Muskfuck never delivers and even he's not dumb enough to release whatever monstrosity their shit-tier AI would produce
Are you saying he's a liar? He said it will happen, and he'll have a show with a hysterical crowd welcoming the release of The REAL TRUE Odyssey movie, and Tesla's Level 5 Full Self Driving, and he'll broadcast this show to the folks who just set foot on Mars!
Bet everything. There's a zero percent chance this happens, why lowball the bet?
So ever single person in that full length movie would be brown?
Really doubt that Elmo.
Why would they be brown. Greeks aren't brown.
Dark olive skin is what my cursory googling led me to believe. Not that I super give a fuck about the color of someone's skin let alone in the past LET ALONE in a fictional fantasy piece. But like I didn't get the impression that they were porcelain white either.
They aren't white either. Which is what counts to racists like musk.
To them anything else is "brown".
I'm of South East Asian descent I know Greek people who are darker than me, yet I'm brown and Greeks are not?
In just two years, the premiere will be held at a big party at my cool (not weird) house on mars. The guests will all be real robots that do cool (not weird) dances to thank me for throwing the wildest parties. The AI actors will all have my normal and very regular speaking cadence, comic timing and cool (not weird) body shape. Anyone who isn't a robot but wants to attend will have to get pregnant by me, and from that point forward we will only communicate through filed lawsuits.
[Unprompted karate demonstration, done with hands straight down at sides and without lifting foot above height of opposite ankle]
It's a dog whistle meaning they will make Odyssey white
Hey now. There are still slaves in the Odyssey.
There's a coherent, objective, and interesting interpretation of "historically accurate" that I would like to see, that being what the Greeks at the time that the poem was written imagined the poem to be describing.
(But maybe there would be too much moral dissonance for that to be a fun movie.)
Aren't there a bazillion adaptions that only have white English actors already. And of course they didn't care when non-Mediterraneans whites were given roles to play people from the Mediterranean. Like where was the outrage when fucking Gerald Butler played Leonidas with a Scottish accent.
And of course they didn’t care when non-Mediterraneans whites were given roles to play people from the Mediterranean.
"Who are you getting to play a Greek guy from a small island spitting distance from Egypt?"
"After reviewing the candidates, we settled on the most stereotypical Boston Irishman under 60"
I guess they didn't go with a Skarsgård, which shows some restraint.
Even the mythology of The Iliad and the Odyssey doesn't match up because at the time it is meant to be set, Aphrodite wasn't worshipped, yet she basically sparked off the Trojan War in the myth.
Aren't they the same people yelling to hire the best people for the job and not based on skin color?
Yes they are. With the caveat that "best" is highly correlated with skin color.
I think this is code for “True to the art of the white race.”
There’s literally terminally online people mad that the Odyssey just… isn’t that.
Making an AI generated movie at the end of this year is billionaire equivalent of giving treats to your sickly pet before the euthanization.
I wonder if it will also do the bible with historically accurate Jesus. Probably not, that would shock the people that still buy his shit too much.
self proclaimed non-reader is suddenly interested in the authenticity of a classical literature adaptation
lol Elon watches influencers
The Leon Hitler fans will set their Tesla's on autopilot and watch the movie.
Musk is too dumb to know that. He really think it’s historical reality lol
I mean, I could see "historically accurate" in this context simply meaning that it is more accurate to the oldest writings of the story.
Like, historically accurate to the story. Not history itself.
Wouldn't that be something like literary accuracy?
I think trying to apply logic to Musk's ramblings is not a winnable game lol
Does the work of fiction not have a history?
Yeah. Who wrote it, when, where, inspirations...
What do you think you've accomplished by trying to interpret his nonsense? What/who is now better off for you taking the time to do that?

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