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[–] 260 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I would have something to say, but one of the comments in the article said it better than I could.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    I wouldn't be surprised if an author wanted to waive there claim to the settlement and look for more, but arguing for damages is a hard hurdle. Depending on the local laws you may need actual examples, or a measurable decrease in sales. Fuck this ask for forgiveness shit

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  • [–] 81 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Statutory damages are 150k per violation and that's how much music industry often got in court per song. This settlement would cover 10K books at this rate, they downloaded over 7M.

    This settlement is 0.14% of what statutory damages would have been.

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  • [–] 68 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    They should be forced to remove all models that have said stolen content or can receive a fine that doubles in value for each violation afterwards. So if the fine exponentially grows larger the longer they choose to break the law. 1 million first fine, 2 million second. 4 the third, 8m the fourth time. etc, etc.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 months ago

    Everyone is saying this isn't anywhere near what they should be getting, and that's true. But this also opens the door to further legal action from others infringed upon, increasing their likelihood of winning.

    If it were me I'd ask the judge to order payment immediately, before this bubble pops and they get nothing. It's all a house of cards built on sand.

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  • [–] 67 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    They should have to pay ongoing royalties forever. There is no separating the training data now.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The judge ruled that the training was not a violation of copyright

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Not favorable terms to them but...Gotta settle that suit quick so you can cash in with an IPO, before the bubble pops.

    Right now they're settling at their inflated valuation so it's all Monopoly money.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (1 child)

    How is this not favorable to them? They're making off like bandits, AND setting a bad (for everyone else) precedent

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I agree, sorry for my poor writing. I mean to say, the dollar value and decision to settle at this stage on such a fundamental dispute to their business is atypical, and they only agreed to it because of their absolutely nonsense valuation and the IPO plans.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    training AI chatbots on copyrighted books wasn’t illegal

    What?!? This is a disastrous ruling!

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    This is a pittance — about $3,000 per victim, for having their life's work copied and distributed to, effectively, anyone and everyone on Earth.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    chump change.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Cost of doing business.

    In reality proper punishment would be forbidding all models trained on copyrighted content from being monetized.

    That would actually hurt since the whole point was to build these models and just pay the fine

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    [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Thats not how much a license for a book would cost.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Per book, this would be acceptable.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    if they enforce copyright laws almost all AI companies would go bankrupt

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