I'm Canadian. I can't go to America cause when I was a teenager I ended up in a mental hospital once, and we apparently shared that private health data with the Americans, and the border guards can and will deny you entry for "you once tried to hurt yourself 20 years ago", it's been in the news.
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Yikes
Israel already has everyone's data, for a long time and share what they want with any of the five eyes, Europe in general. So it's probably safe to say all Western states have each other's citizens data, plus a few states, if expedient toward US objectives.
This is ridiculous! Don't make that decision for us without asking first. Far far easier just to avoid travel to the US. The world is huge and there are far better places to visit
Right at the moment when the US has become the most unappealing place to visit as a European...
Why tho?
Travel to that country is getting more painful day by day. You need to give them all social media handles you've used in the last 5 years (which I don't fully remember/forgot) and possibly even more. Other countries with an eVisa system just ask you for your passport number and a fee.
Fuck it, I'll go somewhere where I don't need that BS, like Austria, which I literally have a train ride away (or I can take a walk there).
Social media handles? Really?
If it was on demand after you scan then the information gets sent that should be fine. Just providing the entire database at once is dumb.
I don't think so.
Here in Slovakia, the EU is viewed very favourably for a reason. We can work freely in whichever EEA country we want, take a walk to neighboring countries without any border checks or just freight forward a laptop that doesn't ship here to Wolfsthal and pick it up there. That's the beauty of it.
Also our Brussels overlords didn't outsource age checks to external companies, unlike the rest of the first world.
Also if the Eurofunds money isn't misplaced to serve high-ranking politicians only, some amazing things can be achieved with it.
wait, does this mean we no longer have to have a visa to live/work in the EU? because that would be super peak
In 2022, the US government announced that it would require access to biometric databases of countries if they wish to keep visa exemption for their citizens travelling to the US, including European Union (EU) Member States.
No, fuck you it's only for the Europeans (white straight, cis, neurotypical, from a middle class proletariat position higher) probably.
Is this only a concern if I travel to the US? Or is it enough to just have EDR.
I don't understand why this is even on the table....
The US and the EU are the two largest single markets in the world, just give both entities mutual visa free travel and be done with it.
Come on EU, stop simping for the US!
This is the case now.
US is adding extra requirements to keep the status quo.
Now either EU accepts it (this proposal) or hard line (and consider that US has other ways to access the data of Europeans). Problem is that if the EU decides to not give access, likely on this administration they will stop EU to enter visa free.
Exactly like for the tariffs, EU can either do the same or accept the US citizens visa free.
Typically this would mean require visa for US citizens that means a lot of lost opportunities for everyone (exactly like tariffs)
As s far as I know your already have to get a VISA for the US
No, the vast majority of EU countries are eligible for ESTA that is as close to no visa as it gets in the US
What can the people do, @edri@eupolicy.social? If it's against EU law, won't it lose in court?
EU is falling to the dark side...
I just commented something along these lines on another post of the same article. It really feels like we're entering darker times.
Thanks to people idiots voting for populist fascists. It's a problem born from the lack of education and preparation for the internet.
They are allowing the same fascism to take over. I wonder how much longer they will criticize the US for not doing anything about it before they realize they're screwed too.
I'm not sure how many more ways VDL et al can find to sell us out to the US - every single time and neither to our benefit nor in good faith. Even strategically and politically this seems like an exceptionally bad move.
It's absurd how little control we have over our own data even while we have the legislation in place.
The European Comission is not the only one to blame, since it has limited power on its own. The European Council (of which VDL is also a member) is in large part responsible for delegating the Comission to fulfill various duties such as negotiations with the US, as well as instructing the Comission on the expected results.
That said, any time the European Comission is assigned to any task or receives any power from the Council - it overwhelmingly acts in the best interests of the US, not the EU.
The main problem we're dealing with is that many EU states and institutions are filled with American assets. The system seems fine on paper, but everything goes to shit as soon as several heads of state/government are aligned with our enemies.
This is true, but VDL has pulled an enormous amount of power to herself (not to the Commission - to herself) and when it comes to these matters (the US trade 'deal' is another good example) she has a lot of influence even if she operates under a Council mandate. I am not sure how big her influence is in the Council, she's a member but without voting rights.
Most of our national leaders are letting us down again and again, indeed.
I strongly believe in the ideas and ideals in the EU, I just wish our leaders did as well.
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