The community is called childfree, you'd think everyone here would be at least somewhat opposed to the concept of having children.

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[–] 47 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Because people use the All feed.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    There isn’t enough content to stick to a few subreddits, and any that get enough traction will certainly be “brigaded” since there isn’t that much content to go around.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    What are your favourite subreddits on Lemmy? Lol

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  • [+] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The fuck is extremist about "I don't want to have kids"? I'm just surprised there are so many parents on a community for people who have decided for whatever reason that they're better off without kids in their lives.

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  • [+] -4 points 3 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago*

    not at all. Sex is practically a human need for all non-asexual peoples. If a priestt advocates against sex? He advocates against food and water and physical genuine affections - those last 3 were 100 human needs regardless of the human we are sppeaking of in question.

    Children are to a degree not a human need for most humans m The human population of thr planet is high enough that enough people are having enough children to sustain current levels of the human populatiom and the UN has estimated that humannpopulation will peak at approximately 11-13 billion people and will oscillate up and down between these two numbers till the end of time. 11 billion of a species is A LOOOT! We definitely dont need anymore !

    And we definitely dont need anymore kids too as UNICEF has estimatedd that as of last year there are 90 MILLION unadopted minors globally between the ages of 0-17.

    If a childfree person changes their mind about wanting kids 1. is they have IVF, 2. is just freaking adopt a kid . theres so a dizzying amount for them to pick from, 3. somme people simply have to accept that they will remain childless forevver . Heck, many impoortant figures in history had absolutely no kids and they lived happy , fulfilling lives regardless. Im not saying this is for all childfree people who change their mind of course but sometimes a person just has to accept that they were dealt a certain 'hand' by god or the god's deck of card. and youll just have to love with it. There's nothing wring with just accepting the circumcstances that life has handed you and just making the best of it. I for one was bullied so thoroughly J wished I was White. I said a prayer to god hoping they would turn me into a White man...of course my wish NEVER came true. So I just accepted that I would have to love myself as a Black man regardless.

    Each person should live their lives ina way in whiich they dont hurt other people and they dont hurt other species on this planet. And the way I have seen things cchildfree people are actually some of the least destructive people and least selfish people on Earth because 1. the IPCC hs already confirmed that having a child is the most polluting thing a human can do as of now and https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https%3A%2F%2Fspectator.com%2Farticle%2Fhaving-a-child-is-the-grandest-act-of-climate-destruction%2F 2. the IPCC has confirmed thatt even if we stopped burning all fossil fuels as I type this the Earth and Earth's humans will experience DEVASTATING effects from climate change for the next 200 years. Why would I give birth to a kid who will have to deal with potentially being dehydrated to death or getting into needless fights with poor people from the Global South who will be pushed from the equator to surviive the effects of global warming? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQYNtPl7V4

    If youre so angry thatt people have taken the 'extremist' poosition to not have children maybe you should get your head oit your butt and try to permanently improve society so that more people will consider our society to be more invinting to those who have thoughts of having kids. No joke if capitaliism did not exist right now? I would have lilke a dozen kids , some of them adopted.... BUT the capitalists that have so successfully brainwashed you and so many others have decided that a broke Black loser like me should remain a broke Black loser FOREVER.... So yea! ...I guess Ill play my role and not impoverish any potential children and spare them from the racism that Ive experiencedd far too often.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Wait... This isn't a place I can get a free child?

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I think hearing from parents and getting insight into their perspectives is interesting and worthwhile. Provided it's not an unproductive dog pile of "you'll never understand true love" or "you're just selfish" nonsense. I'm secure in my position of being a childfree person, nothing another person says or thinks will change my mind or make me doubt myself or feel ashamed of my choice etc.

    I'm childfree because I want to be and because I simply don't want to raise children. I'm unlikely to regret not doing something I've never wanted to do in the first place. I also don't want to be a surgeon or learn to play the oboe or dedicate my life to a religion or climb Everest or any number of things that take time and dedication and commitment and effort for a result/purpose I'm entirely uninterested in experiencing personally.

    I also love and whole heartedly support my friends and loved ones who are parents. They have an immensely difficult job that I certainly don't want to do, and they impress me all the time with how much care and dedication they pour into being parents. I learn so much by holding space for them and my perspectives on life are enriched by listening to theirs. My own choice to not parent is also consistently reinforced by their stories and shared experiences lol.

    I feel like a live and let live approach goes a long way in supporting open and productive dialog when it comes to this particular subject.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    im a bit of an antinatilist so if anything I feel the shame goes in the other direction and I think the people I know with kids are bit nuts to have kids at this point but otherwise Im sorta similar in sentiment.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I’m on “all” not really interested in the community. You do you tho. Have kids, don’t have kids. Whatever.

    Anyway I’m saying most of the parents are coming from all. Source: I’m a happy parent and I’m here.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago

    I just saw your post and never heard of this community. So it's your fault Im visiting 😂.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    IDK, I can easily see some parents posting to a community like this to say something like "Don't do it! I did, and it was a huge mistake..."

    Opposite side of the coin from the common "You'll understand when you have kids of your own".

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I scroll all and only block communities if I have 0% interest or if I feel the community is really looking to be a place just for the people into it. The sidebar does not really say anthing about the group so I don't see why parents would not get into the discussions if it moved them.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    I was child free until I wasn't?

    Lil guy is pretty cute.

    Saw this when browsing everything, normally I'd let it pass but I felt called out.

    I totally support the child free community. Was pretty sure I'd be amongst you all.

    I hope most in the child free are not aggressively against children, I knew someone like that once, not a cool person.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    There is a surprising amount of antinatalism here. Apparently people just want the human race to end.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    I dream about it. Like, if a fungus infected all of mand kind, and suddenly we all stopped reproducing because the fungus made our brains not want it, what would happen? Would we take care of eachother until the last ond dies? Would we ever identify the fungus and slove it?

    so many thoughts

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    I do want the human race to end though. Not painfully, but rather phasing out gradually (although I do realize that antinatalism is such an unpopular opinion that it isn't really possible). No hate for children or any other being though. I just want there to be less suffering.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (5 children)

    do you want to end all life that suffers?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Not sure what you mean by that. Neither I nor antinatalism advocates for ending existent life. It is just about not causing additional suffering by bringing new beings into existence.

    If anything, I believe that we should acknowledge that we are all in this suffering together, and be compassionate to fellow living beings.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    It's the logical conclusion of antinatalism. All life "suffers". If you stop bringing new beings into the world that can experience suffering then you're advocating for no life at all after this current generation.

    And yes I fully support compassion and empathy, but you can do that while also sustaining the human race and life as we know it.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Got it. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought you were talking about antinatalists ending existent life.

    Yes, in the ideal scenario, I think it is best to "end" all life, via gradually phasing out of existence. I think that would cause minimal suffering. I do not realistically think that it could happen in the next generation (or in any generation owing to how extreme and controversial it is perceived by the general population).

    Sure, you can be compassionate and empathetic to existing beings, but I see not bringing new beings out of empathy (due to the potentiality of their guaranteed suffering) to be more moral and a purer form of the trait.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    The description of the conclusion is accurate: no new beings means no one after this generation, and that is the intended outcome rather than a side effect nobody noticed. What is disputed is that the outcome is a harm. The absence of a generation is not bad for anyone, because there is no one for whom it is a loss. Deprivation needs a subject who is deprived, and after the last being there is none, so the loss registers only from the perspective of beings who already exist and are attached to the continuation. The compassion points the same way rather than against it. Caring about suffering is what makes it hard to justify starting a life whose consent cannot be obtained and whose worst outcomes are permanent. That the species continues is a goal that has to be argued for, and the argument offered is that it continues.

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  • [+] -15 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah, reddit childfree is insanely hostile and spread to other subreddits with their hate on any child. I was childfree until i understood the concept of life and how we came to be in humanity and society. I would not exist if any one of my billions(trillions?)of ancestors decided to be child free.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    This is the problem with the childfree community these days, antinatalists (who argue no one should have children) have taken over.

    But they are an extreme and vocal subset of child-free people. I am happily childfree but i acknowledge that other people who do want to have kids should have them, and that we need children to sustain society.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    The distinction between choosing childlessness and holding that no one should procreate is real. What follows from the second view is not a demand that anyone alive change. It is a claim about the next person. The economic half deserves a direct answer, because it is the strongest part: modern growth presupposes continuous population expansion, new workers funding pensions and new consumers driving markets. Stated plainly, that requires imposing existence on unconsenting beings so they can serve as economic instruments for those already here, inheriting the debt and the degradation. The problem of caring for an ageing population is real. It has to be solved through automation, institutional reform, mutual aid and resource reallocation, and not by creating people whose justification for existing is to care for those who preceded them.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I just sort by all and my ADHD brain comments before I see what community I'm in. I'm trying to do better.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago*

    ITT: individual confused by difference between topic and participation

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    My kids are both out right now, I think I'm child free, no?

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  • [+] -12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    They aren't children any more, they grew up

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Because it's something I look forward to when they move out.

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