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[–] 51 points 3 months ago (1 child)

Not Apple though. Apple just hand waves the numbers.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Apple does the thing with screens where they cycle between more shatter resistant and more scratch resistant and tout "3x more shatter/scratch resistant than the previous model"

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    [–] 88 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    My apologies for bringing insane US politics into a non-political post but I saw an example of this just today.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago

    Don't forget "up to..."

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  • [–] 18 points 3 months ago

    False. They also stick fake numbers in there with zero regard for consistency.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago*

    just keep adding decimal places until you see a difference

    I also love meaningless things like

    "3x more effective at remowing plaques" or "10x kore tougher on stains". Yeah sure buddy it is...

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    very odd its not going 3.18, 3.211115, 3.222224, 3.233333 must be before the ipo announcement

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  • [–] -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    It depends on what are you are trying to compare

    YearFlagship ModelStandard FP32 Compute Power 2008NVIDIA GTX 280~0.9 TFLOPS

    2010NVIDIA GTX 580~1.5 TFLOPS

    2012NVIDIA GTX 680~3.0 TFLOPS

    2014NVIDIA GTX 980~4.6 TFLOPS

    2016NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti~11.3 TFLOPS

    2018NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti~13.4 TFLOPS

    2020NVIDIA RTX 3090~35.5 TFLOPS

    2022NVIDIA RTX 4090~82.6 TFLOPS

    2025NVIDIA RTX 5090~104.8 TFLOPS

    I guess a good way to view it is, a stand mixer, a hand mixer and a whisk. All have purposes.. but you have to be using the right tool for the right workload to get the best performance.

    It isn't better to scramble 6 eggs with a stand mixer before you put them in the pan, just use a fork. Doesn't mean the stand mixer won't blow the fork away when making ground beef.

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    [–] 106 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

    Outdated. They stopped labeling the axes or for GPUs they label it some bullshit like "relative performance" so they can claim 16x performance with upscaling and slop-generated frames.

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  • [–] [S] 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    That is such a pet peeve of mine. Charts without labeled axes might as well just be art projects.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    A couple of years ago I saw a thing about how Apple had announced the M3 or M4 chips were something like "16x faster!"

    And yeah. They were.

    Than the last-gen Intel chips they used. Three or four years before.

    It's bullshit all the way down.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    The devil's advocate version is that nobody on Apple Silicon needs to upgrade yet so they compare to CPUs people might actually be considering upgrading from.

    I still hate how deceptive it is.. And it's completely unnecessary because they've been achieving stellar gains almost every generation.

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  • [–] 47 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I remember when people got upset by things like this. I wonder why it's "ok" now.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    Moore's Law is struggling against the limits of what's physically possible and the days of massive jumps in performance each generation are long over. It's hard to advertise a new CPU when it's running at nearly the same clock speed models ran at ten years ago and all you've done is thrown more L3 cache at an otherwise 99% unchanged previous model.

    Even the number of cores has stagnated, and that was their Hail Mary to keep the performance gains coming. And I bet the Spectre/Meltdown mitigations eroded a large part of those gains too - IIRC existing chips lost ~12% performance after the firmware patches, and new ones had to be redesigned to handle speculative execution in a less efficient (but more secure) way.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    Though there has recently been another step forward with transistors being able to get under a nanometer, 0.7 nm from 2 nm to be precise, and the last time a measurement needed to go another level smaller was in 1984 when it went from 1 micrometer to 0.8 micrometers.

    That 0.7 nm one marks another jump in power while being significantly more efficient, which is I guess Moore's law living out of spite of not actually being a scientific law.

    Also it's funny this is about the 2nd or third time I've seen someone say "Moore's law is dead struggling" since that 0.7 nm process was figured out not that long ago, though I can definitely see the "struggling" part.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Interesting! I'd always heard that the nanometer wars were mostly marketing fluff these past several years and the quoted numbers divorced from reality, but they're claiming genuinely sub-nanometer chips. And 3d chip designs, which is equally impressive. I haven't followed chip tech in a few years, but last I knew heat dissipation was still a huge bottleneck preventing stacked designs.

    Though it's a shame they're focusing all that innovation towards the AI sector. Their consumer lines have been stagnant for a while now.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    Intel's nanometer-ish numbers are BS. They call their 14nm process "Intel 10", their 10nm process "Intel 7", their 7nm "Intel 4", etc. As far as I know, other companies are more truthful.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    I made a chart like this once, it was to encourage my wife durong the start of her weight loss journey

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