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[–] 158 points 3 months ago (28 children)

I just saw a video from a local news channel about a different patch of land in Georgia where Georgia Power was given an easement across a bunch of people's land, essentially cutting these people's property in half, then they clear cut the forest at the back of their properties and installed some giant transmission line towers also to power datacenters. One young couple interviewed had just bought their property and were planning on using the land to grow food but now they can't and they also can't sell because only half their property is usable despite them having paid for the entire plot.

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  • [–] 72 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I believe they can sue though. Might depend on the law there but I was literally just watching a video of a lawyer going over what to do if your property is seized and or used in violation of your right to enjoy your property and there's an avenue for land owners to sue.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/xSlpDry0gms?is=Lr7vflRiMWBUaTVr

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  • [–] 50 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Could also track down the CEO, trap them in their own dwellings, and set them on fire.

    That requires slightly more work though

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  • [–] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You never get the smell of burning flesh out of your nose.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The trick is to use a proper flamethrower. Then you don't have to worry about being close enough to smell it.

    Besides, it's the skin hair and fat that smells bad, the muscle itself smells... Not good, but like... Not gross or anything.

    Source of smell: accidents from my past.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    The last proper flame thrower designed as a weapon was the M202 FLASH, it's a flame-rocket-launcher (with 4 tubes.) Jonathan Wild, who built and licensed one, has videos and a book about it. Total waste of time, but still entertaining.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (13 children)

    Lucifer! No compensation for that?!

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (12 children)

    They need to sue right away, eminent domain without compensation is a violation of the Fifth Amendment.

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  • [–] 28 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I'm sure some young couple in rural Georgia that just made the biggest purchase of their entire life will jump right on that. I'm sure they've got a huge reserve fund for legal expenses set aside. /s

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Absolutely this.

    While lawsuits seem to drive the American economy, maybe we don't all have a lawsuit fund to go alongside our medical expense account, because we're too busy paying for housing and heat and light and food and gas.

    ...and maybe we shouldn't feel like the credible threat of a lawsuit is the only thing keeping people in line.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Some lawyers work on commission!

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago*

    Like AstralPath said, the take a fairly large portion of the final payout, but more than that, when they are working on commission, they pay for all the costs, which isn't very tempting. For most laywers, if not all, working on commision, the have to be fairly certain of two things:

    1. They have a good chance of winning the case
    2. Their portion payout will cover (and preferably more than cover) the costs they put into it

    Unfortunately, not both are true that often. So, many people are just left screwed over with no way to recover anything

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    True, but your settlement to recoup costs gets eaten by the lawyer, likely to leave you with very little at the end of the day. So the defendant gets a slap on the wrist, you get a pittance and you're still fucked.

    I'd sue no matter what just out of principle, but just sayin' lol

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I’m sure they’re getting compensation. The question is always whether it’s fair compensation. I’m sure they’re claiming they’re just using an easement on the back of the property while they’re saying our entire lives are here and we don’t want to live under power lines

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's sort of the risk you take when buying a property with an easement though. Their realtor should have disclosed that.

    If it wasn't there when they bought it the utility company should have had to at least pay market value for the land.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago*

    I think in this case they are actually using eminent domain for it.

    Basically they are reaching out to families, asking for permission, and then when denied that permission going through the state/town and getting permission that way.

    The easement taking up half their land was the "compromise" that the utility company gave them, because they already had a notice/permission from the town/state on the entire property. They were going to have the line no matter what, it was whether the current owners wanting to have part of the property, or none of the property. its pretty sickening.

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  • [–] 110 points 3 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Well, datacenters are pretty much Eminent Domaining people then.

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  • [+] 41 points 3 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    How can democracy exist when industries control the economy? When a business can just decide to pull out of a town and put tens of thousands of people out of work, how does “one person, one vote” have any meaning whatsoever? True power is held by those who control the economy.

    Democracy is fundamentally incompatible with the economic systems based on inequality like capitalism. Democracy can only meaningfully exist in a classless society. And until that is achieved, democracy is best achieved by those societies who only allow the working class to hold political power.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Cannot wait for this AI bubble to pop as these corrupt politicians are so obviously doing this at our expense, while they pocket all the profit

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Here's the thing. The bubble will pop, people will loose billions, the prices of everything will go into flux, the economy will crash, and the people who still have enough money to make serious investments during that time will be able to buy so much more stuff simply because so much more will be for sale.

    We saw it happen in 2008, we saw it happen in 2020, and it will happen again when the bubble pops, and we'll just let the people who crashed the economy off the hook, and borrow more money from our future selves to pay them to fix it now.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    well that doesn't sound as good, i never even considered this to be a possibility, but thinking about it logically makes sense

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Happens every time. Realistically, the only thing that would "level" the playing field is a complete collapse of all currency. Unrealistically, it could be leveled through progressive taxes on obscene incomes, a recurring tax of accumulated wealth over a certain value, and closing of tax loopholes.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Don't forget how many good people will be left holding the bag due to their retirement funds being drained into that bubble while the elites cash out :( just like the 2008 crash this is just another pump and dump at our expense while the rich will make out like the robber Barron's they are anyways

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Damn, Georgia too? I thought this was mainly a US American thing at this point.

    😉

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    I once visited a city called Savannah and was very disappointed to not find a savannah biome anywhere in the vicinity. It was far too forested! But maybe I was in that imaginary Georgia? I need to visit the real one.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    I keep seeing this story all over my news feeds and YouTube recommendations. Glad it's being put out there, at least!

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (16 children)

    Remember that feelings of compassion should be contingent on the question: "Who do you vote for?"

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  • [–] 33 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    It’s deranged to create a class of people that it’s okay to steal houses from and pollute the place they live no matter how they voted, actually

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  • [–] 40 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    It’s wrong to steal people’s houses and to pollute the place they live, no matter who they voted for.

    But I’ll be damned if I shed a single tear if these people happily voted in the regime which brazenly supports stealing people’s houses and polluting where they live.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    You can still empathize with people who were uninformed and subsequently exploited / harmed.

    Giving into the “me vs them” team mentality is giving the oligarchs exactly what they want: divide and conquer.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 months ago

    They were informed. They were warned. They were told about “project 2025” and how bad it would be. They’ve been through one trump presidency. They knew what they signed up for.

    My stance on trump voters:

    If you voted for him the first time, you made a foolish/uninformed decision. But forgivable.

    If you voted for him the second time, you’re a dumb person and I don’t trust you.

    If you voted for him this third time, after the insurrection, after how horrible he has proven to be, fuck you. You’re evil. No pity from me.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    It is frustrating that a person can be as willfully idiotic as they can and if they get taken for fools by the fascists, that the left is right there with a safety net preventing them from finding out after they fucked around. I think at some point you are enabling idiots to go on being idiots without consequences.

    Largely I agree, but at some point kindness in the face of hatred becomes its own kind of idiocy. You can't be allies with someone who is ambivalent or worse about whether you live or die.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Straight-up. I really don't care who these people voted for. If they're pissed that datacenters are stealing their family home, that's actually a perfect opportunity to win right-wing votes that doesn't compromise values. At the minimum, It's an opportunity to fight back against big tech and data centers. Punishing them for who they presumably voted for is deranged on multiple levels, but unfortunately normalized among liberals.

    Liberals will insist on adopting centrist and right wing policies in the hope of winning over jetski dads in the suburbs. They'll do anything they can to win over these voters. They do it every election. It leads to a cynicism among voters that nothing can ever change for the better (and they're fucking right). So people stay home or vote for someone else. The jetski dads predictably vote for the most fascist politician possible, because that's what they want. They don't want fascism lite, they want fascism done right. The centrist eats shit and blames the left (who often work tirelessly to elect their dumbass as a harm reduction measure, but whatever).

    Then, when the Republican wins and starts doing Republican shit, liberals offer only condascending quips about a process that never works out for people. They insist that suffering is payment to them from the poorest and least educated people in the USA for not playing their little game correctly. And in the same fucking breath, they'll propose more dead-end centrist garbage to the same jetski dads as last time.

    Stop conceding to the right. Run on populist left policies that improve the material lives of everyone, and you'll naturally win over voters. That includes saving rural Georgian families from data centers even if they don't like you or vote for you. If you do enough for them you will eventually win them over. Fighting data centers is a net win for environmentalism and labor.

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  • [+] -9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Do you deprive these people of your compassion because you think they are evil? Because I sincerely don't believe in evil. I believe in stupidity, folly, shortsightedness... and the people affected by them do have my compassion and my empathy.

    Also, given what you said I'd bet you voted for a billionaire-friendly, genocide supporter, fucking cop. So you, in that case, too have my compassion and empathy.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    You don't believe in evil even though you shared a planet with Epstein? That my friend is folly and I highly recommend you set a new definition of evil for yourself with his and his co-conspirators' names.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Well, I believe in sickness too. And, yes, I also feel pity for Epstein and company, look at them, do you think those are happy people?

    Don't get me wrong, I ain't no saint and this isn't any of that 'other cheek' crap. I do hate to live in a world full of sick, dumb, fool, shortsighted people, but in a more 'hate the game and not the player' way, specially since playing it is not really a choice.

    To solve this issues, or any problem really, it's needed some understanding. I'm not very good with people or with social matters, nor do I like them much, but I think the attitude on your comment of 'I'm glad this bad thing is happening because it's hurting the other people more' isn't helping.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I admire your faith in humanity, but its not something we have in common.

    There are 8 billion people on this planet. Pedophiles are disposable and should be handled accordingly. Nothing of value would be lost.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    One day these companies will take everything away from someone who has nothing to lose. Remember killdozer, "Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things".

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago

    they voted for this

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  • [+] -7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    When reached for comment the family said, "how could this happen to us? We're not even trans?"

    Have the day you voted for, know that you won't be the last people in rural areas that this happens to, and that when the AI bubble pops you still won't get the land back. It's gone forever.

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    [–] 21 points 3 months ago (20 children)

    Fucking bullshit time to burn these companies down and someone should tear down the fucking CEO home. And they are using dominance first. The fact that they are threatening sell to us or else says it a lie for them saying last resort.

    You come try take and tear down a home that was supposed to be generational wealth I be burning some data centers to the ground. Now lady mom sold her home and I bet the money isn't enough to buy a similar home somewhere else. Fuck the government for allowing this bullshit. AI data center are not for public good just the opposite. When do we revolt.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (19 children)

    Why is it always "someone" should do it? Why not you?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Because of our hyper individualism here in the USA, we have very little solidarity. It's this absence of solidarity that stays the hand. No one believes the rest of us will charge in after them and have their back. Why should they? This is the land of "fuck you, I got mine".

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Stop encouraging people to confess to crimes on the internet.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    Well, for starters Fredselfish.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    Second I don't live in Georgia nor have the means or funds to start committing domestic terrorism. But you want start something and we can get millions with us then maybe we can do something that will actually work to end this bullshit. One man out doing shit won't do shit but get me 100 year prison sentence like those folks in Texas who most were not even connected.

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  • [+] -12 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    So, if you're not in the area, and you're not willing to stick your own neck out ti uphold your expressed values, then why do you think you need to have an opinion?

    Your opinion essentially boils down to "someone else should do prison time for the crimes I want to see comitted because I'm too chickenshit to live by my own values."

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    "You can't make a direct impact tomorrow therefore you can't have an opinion" is the stupidest take I've heard today. Keep raging online about how people vent frustration online lol

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

    Good thing that's not what was said. But hey, good job on that public demonstration of your poor reading comprehension.

    This is why it's important to stay in school.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    "If you aren't in the area and aren't willing to stick your neck out"

    "You can't make a direct impact tomorrow"

    Those are communicating the same idea. "If you're not one who's willing and able to enact change, then you shouldn't have an opinion on it" You're arguing semantics because you know you have nothing else.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    You added the "tomorrow". I did not specify a timeline. So, no. They aren't communicating the same idea.

    But thanks for going so far as to put together a whole powerpoint about the poor reasoning and awful reading comprehension skills that caused you to create your straw man. (Tip: That's hyperbole. Don't take it literally, champ.)

    What I said was - If you aren't in the area and this isn't "your" issue in some tangible way, why do you feel so strongly that you need to have an opinion about it that you express publicly? What purpose does this meaningless public exhortation for "somebody to do something" serve?

    Maybe if you'd stayed in school, you'd understand that words have meaning beyond whatever your tiny, self-centered mind can conceive of. After all, you're so unoriginal you chose that username, likely to help communicate to the world the fact that you've got the mind of a twelve year-old prepubescent little boy.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Lol I ain't reading all that. Happy for you tho. Or sorry it happened.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Thank you for admitting you're wrong.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Not even close but keep coping since online comments sections must be all you have in life lol

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Projection ain't just for the cinemas, kiddo.

    It's going to be a great moment when you're old enough to have the lived experience to know that you're just telling on yourself with every comment.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    He's got work tomorrow.

    Too many people thinking they have too much to lose.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Too many people thinking they have too much to lose.

    Yep. Too many people in the not-targeted class aren't willing to step up and do their part. They'd rather whine on social media about "somebody should do something." But that somebody is never them. Not until ICE is on their doorstep shooting their dog.

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