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[โ€“] 80 points 4 months ago (1 child)

Enough internet for today. Let's get back to work

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  • [โ€“] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    based on how they look, I'll say it's a fmily tradition

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  • [โ€“] 18 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Why does she give off ๐Ÿ‘ฝ vibes

    Reminds me of the alien in American dad playing a new part, what he looks like with a wig and makeup on

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  • [โ€“] 14 points 4 months ago

    Well, enough Internet for this week

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 4 months ago

    Incest! It's fun for the whole family!

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  • [โ€“] 34 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    I know this is a shitpost, but I'm assuming someone fabricated that message on top of a picture of two people. In which case, I don't like sharing this as it's basically cyberbullying.

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  • [+] [S] -18 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Thank you for your valuable feedback! I have gained significant insights from your contribution, which will undoubtedly inform my future endeavors. I believe that continuous self-reflection and a commitment to personal growth are essential for fostering a more accepting and tolerant global community.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    While we're here, there aren't actually any spelling errors in the post, just mispunctuations.

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  • [โ€“] [S] -4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    If it was spoken yes, but in this case it is a misspelling

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    You can't mispunctuate spoken language. There's an unneeded apostrophe in "we're" and a missing apostrophe in "cause", but no misspellings. Les u reckon it shud b spelt "cuz", but that there's a matter-a style now ain't it

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  • [โ€“] 12 points 4 months ago

    ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฎ

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  • [โ€“] 43 points 4 months ago (26 children)

    On the one hand anything between consenting adults is good and valid.

    On the other hand, incest is too ingrained of a taboo for me yet.

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  • [โ€“] 56 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    The increased chance of birth defects seems a bit immoral. Also there's a good chance childhood trauma is at play for siblings to want to bang, or at the very least some questionable power dynamics, that are worth at least looking into. Supposing none of that is an issue I guess I'm not going to yuck someone else's yum even if I feel weird about the whole thing ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    Supposing none of that is an issue

    Obviously itโ€™s against the law because folks that are prone to inbreeding are not necessarily equipped to make those assessments. The same as anything.

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  • [โ€“] -3 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    because folks that are prone to inbreeding are not necessarily equipped to make those assessments.

    Yeah, but it seems a bit eugenical.

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  • [โ€“] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    You know what? I think letting racists ruin eugenics gives them one extra "fuck you" to the human race.

    If I use a revolver to play Russian roulette with a baby, they'd bury me under the prison. Why is it fine for parents with documented genetic conditions to do the same?

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  • [โ€“] 17 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    documented genetic conditions

    Who's to say what conditions qualify? And what even is a condition? Homosexuality was in the DSM not long ago.

    If the parents' families have, say, a history of heart disease, we can all agree heart disease is bad, right? So they should be penalized for wanting children?

    What about people with red hair? If we collectively decide to pathologize having red hair, are we going to sterilize all the gingers?

    Do we try and prevent people with autism from being born? Down's Syndrome?

    I'd rather see better detection and genetic therapies, myself. Inform the parents and let them come to their own conclusion about whether or not to have children.

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 4 months ago

    It's definitely possible to establish reasonable thresholds - you could draw parallels to abuse/neglect laws. There are things that many people may find grotesque and objectionable that aren't considered abuse/neglect. There are definitely historical and modern examples of those laws being applied unfairly, particularly to the disadvantaged. Boundaries may flex across regions or cultures, But it's fair to say society as a whole supports abuse/neglect laws, and that they're generally beneficial for children.

    Iโ€™d rather see better detection and genetic therapies, myself. Inform the parents and let them come to their own conclusion about whether or not to have children.

    A perfectly reasonable take, but even that falls in-scope of eugenics.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Eugenics isn't inherently bad. If you prefer dating humans without genetic defects, congratulations; you're a eugenicist.

    Do you prefer blondes or brown hair? You're preferring genes again! Don't like people with potato bodies? There you go preferring genes...

    Find out your fetus has a genetic defect and won't live past five even if you birth them, so you abort? Cheer on genetic therapies that could solve such issues? Congratulations, you've practiced eugenics!!

    Eugenics itself is not bad. It's the racist fuck desire to want to "cleanse" the "race" of humanity that's bad.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    If you prefer dating humans without genetic defects, congratulations; you're a eugenicist.

    Colloquially eugenics refers not to personal preferences, but to collective imperatives, as far as I know.

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 3 months ago*

    Nah, not necessarily imperative. An individual can still be a eugenicist without external support. The only reason the old beliefs that often get credited as "eugenics" were mostly wrong is because they were mostly just ignorance and masked racism, not actual genetic analysis.

    All it takes to be a eugenicist is to believe that certain people shouldn't have children because you believe their genes are bad. That's it. It's literally just:

    Eu: Prefix meaning "good" Gene: Relating to genes ecist: Believer (not totally sure on this one as search results to verify my beliefs mostly returned "-ition" results, with no explicit statements for -ecist or similar)

    It's just a silly thing for a common fool to believe in, since genetics is complicated! Many confirmed genetic disorders are not inheritable. Many health issues are latent. You can have two totally healthy people birth genetic defects nigh 100% of the time. On the other end, someone with certain genetic disorders can absolutely have totally fine children with little extra worry. It completely depends on what genes are messed up and why.

    Someone unfamiliar with the INSANE complexity of biology even in the basics of reproduction have zero right to hold a strong opinion on eugenics, IMO. (which of course immediately excludes 99% of conservative fuckwits who would happily call themselves eugenicists)

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 4 months ago

    yuck someone else's yum even if I feel weird about the whole thing ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

    I'm quite the same honestly, but like you said - there isn't a need to be a dick about it, already a surplus of them around.

    In terms of birth defects, that may be right. But it really depends on the generation of in-breading. A single generation wouldnt do much harm but has the potential to if it continues. Of course, about the trauma and power dynamic bits, that may be a hit or miss as it doesn't really hold.

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  • [โ€“] 25 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Incest is almost never between two consenting adults. There is almost always an inappropriate power dynamic, coercion, and/or grooming.

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  • [โ€“] 23 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I don't think we have enough data to make that assumption.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 4 months ago

    That is correct, and that is why we shouldn't make any wild assumptions which dont hold up to the facts. This is essentially shooting blindly within the smoke - there are better ways than relying on assumptions or the "feel".

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    Only abstract is available by that link.
    And the abstract doesn't support your exact claims.

    Also:

    group of adolescent sibling incest offenders (n=21) compared to a group of adolescent non-sibling offenders (n=24).

    Do you call this well studied?

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 3 months ago

    Do you call this well studied?

    Yes.

    Feel free to review any of the 54,000 scientific papers if you don't like the one I shared. If you'd read and understood the abstract, you'd have seen that it is both an original study and review of the field of previous research. The page also includes links directly to dozens of related and cited papers. Psychological and behavioral studies are typically case studies, or group studies like this. This is considered a larger study in the field.

    Feel free to present any paper that supports your counterclaim that there is simply not enough known about the issue to determine whether sibling incest is harmful or not. Please be sure that is is from this century and well-cited, since I did you the same courtesy. You can access full-text articles through an academic login, many public libraries, or archive sites.

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I agree, as long as consent is stated then no harm is done. Consent between people is important; but in these cases, they should know where they stand

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  • [โ€“] 1 point 4 months ago

    In cases of close family sexual contact, consent is not a matter of a simple statement. There are lots of reasons why a person might make a statement of consent while they are in fact unwilling or unable to consent. This is always true, but particularly so in dealing with close family sexual contact.

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 4 months ago

    We're both drowning

    There is no sign of land

    You are coming down with me

    Hand in unlovable hand

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  • [โ€“] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    If me and my girlfirend were both drowning

    Blah blah emoji emoji

    I'd save both because my girlfriend is my hand heart emoji eggplant emoji spooge emoji

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  • [โ€“] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Shit I told my ex I'd let her drown in a frozen lake to save my life.

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    Little Arkansas joke

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    Suddenly incest! ...and I think I'm ok with that?

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    [โ€“] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    If baby Hitler and your family dog were both drowning in the lake, and you could only rescue one...

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