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[–] 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

planned $499 per month subscription

lol

taking bets on how long it will take for this to become abandonware

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    Quick...

    I saw a story a while ago about a tech company renting out airbnbs as training environments for these types of bots

    They absolutely destroyed the houses, fine motor skills is insanely difficult, and the robots just kept breaking everything.

    The coders don't understand how the human brain works (no one does really, but they're especially ignorant). So they're trying to to make one "thing" that controls everything instead of a bunch of subprocesses acting along guidance

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    I'd love to have a robot to handle basic home maintenance tasks. Somehow, I'm not quite willing to bet $20k and $500/month on this thing being anything more than a gimmick. I'd also be really curious what happens to my $20k robot if I cancel the subscription and/or the company goes under. Do I just end up with a really expensive object lesson is poor spending decisions?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Pretty much. There's basically zero chance this will not end up on the pile of products released way before they reached commercial viability.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Move fast and break things.

    And by "things" they mean "functionality".

    I'd also bet on "security" being one of those things. I can't wait to hear about the first time some kids from 4chan take control of one of these bots.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    wait. wait. wait. theres a monthly fee as well?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    What, you expect to actually own something that costs you $20k? Quit obstructing their access to your bank account. Think of the shareholders!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    I know this is a little off from your reply but seriously there are so many things that fight me for me to send them money to pay for it rather than they sucking the money from me. its like no. just no.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    They want you to set up autopay so that you forget about it and just keep paying them forever. Similar reason that every online store wants to save your credit card info. The less friction you have to paying for something, the more likely you are to do it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    yeah its crazy. they want to keep your credit card and then they want to have your bank account info. its like eff off. It really annoys me because the whole bill pay thing from banks could be made much better but I feel every place is desperate to not work with it.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I mean, it's 2026. I can't imagine the robot can't be jailbroken.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Who's gonna hire an Indian to teleoperate it, then?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Just buy a VR headset and become the Indian. By the time the company goes under, you can probably get an AI good enough to handle 80% of tasks and you can just patch in on critical steps for tricky stuff.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    If I'm teleoperating it myself, I may as well do the chores myself.

    I'm also dubious of the claim that AI will get "good enough" in the few years (at best) it takes the company to fold.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, but without the giant data center running it, the robot won't be able to do anything.

    $20k is probably decent for the amount of hardware you get, but the software is what would make this actually useful. And it's a long bet on if they can make it work.

    Of course I wouldn't bring anything like this into my home that connects to a remote data center, it would have to be 100% locally run.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    They're replacing underpaid immigrant workers with underpaid overseas workers remotely controlling a crummy robot, while some rich techbro asshole in the middle skims off almost all the money. I do hope they fail with this stupid idea, but your techbro will already have made off with the money for their next startup scam.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I do chores for less than that.

    And I'm fuckable.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Why do they keep insisting on humanoid? Just give me the crushinator to do chores for $10,000.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Because a humanoid robot can theoretically do all the things humans can do, using appliances designed for humans to operate.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Non-humanoids can theoretically do that too.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    "Non-humanoids" is an incredibly broad description. For example, a Roomba can't empty your dishwasher. But a humanoid robot can use your existing human vacuum to clean the floors.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (8 children)

    Yes that's the whole point. They're forcibly thinking in humanoid forms, while I dont care about form, I care about function. Make shit that's useful, and I dont care what package it comes in. In the vast majority of use cases it's incredibly cumbersome to have it in bipedal form; you to have reserve cpu power/mechanics/power for balance and shit, while not at all necessary for the tasks at hand.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Yes that's the whole point

    ...what? Is your point?

    I dont care about form, I care about function

    They are largely the same in this case.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    You said non-humanoid is a broad description like it's a negative. It's not. Fixating on making the robot humanoid unnecessarily narrows it down. Form and function are by definition not the same, so I don't understand what you mean by that. But I'm got going to stop because it seems.you're intentionally obtuse.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    You said non-humanoid is a broad description like it's a negative.

    No, I said it like it's a meaningless phrase.

    Fixating on making the robot humanoid unnecessarily narrows it down.

    Its not a fixation. Its simple logic that I've already explained. Everything we own is designed to be used by humans, so creating a humanoid robot makes them extremely versatile.

    Form and function are by definition not the same

    That's not correct at all. Function is very largely tied to form, especially in the case of robotics.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    This is not the argument clinic.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Then… don’t ask a question and argue with someone when they give a plausible answer, maybe?

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    It's amazing, they can make a 20k humanoid but it's impossible to make a 20k EV car.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I suppose for a large house, $500/mo. is what one would pay for maid service.

    I don't believe one robot can effectively clean piss from the corner behind the toilet, AND do laundry, AND clean windows, AND dust, AND clean a shower head, AND clean a refrigerator, etc., etc.

    Imagine a robot collecting everything out of a fridge onto a counter, removing the glass shelves, cleaning them, cleaning the inside of the fridge, and then putting everything back without breaking anything, and doing it in 30 minutes. Not happening. Even if it were done completely by remote control, I don't think it could do it.

    These things are not anywhere close to a replacement for a human, but they'll keep pushing it.

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  • $500 sounds about right for weekly maid service. That means the base price of the robot not including subscription fees, power, repairs, etc. would get you ~3 years of maid service. If the subscription is an extra $500/mo, that's more than 6 years of maid service.

    If your maid service goes out of business, you just find a new one. What are the odds this company will still be around in 3 years? 6 years? Not a wager I'd be willing to make.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    They have been saying this since the 1990s, Rocky had a robot maid. Useless unless you just want something that kills anything that moves, which would be pretty cool I guess.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    “Our company is cooler than X because we put a ‘1’ in front of it.”

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