Shit, it's Kentucky hospital too...

They're not exactly the best at making that whole "alive or dead" call.

Natasha Miller says she was getting ready to do her job preserving donated organs for transplantation when the nurses wheeled the donor into the operating room.

She quickly realized something wasn't right. Though the donor had been declared dead, he seemed to her very much alive.

"He was moving around — kind of thrashing. Like, moving, thrashing around on the bed," Miller told NPR in an interview. "And then when we went over there, you could see he had tears coming down. He was crying visibly."

The donor's condition alarmed everyone in the operating room at Baptist Health hospital in Richmond, Ky., including the two doctors, who refused to participate in the organ retrieval, she says.

"The procuring surgeon, he was like, 'I'm out of it. I don't want to have anything to do with it,' " Miller says. "It was very chaotic. Everyone was just very upset."

Miller says she overheard the case coordinator at the hospital for her employer, Kentucky Organ Donor Affiliates (KODA), call her supervisor for advice.

"So the coordinator calls the supervisor at the time. And she was saying that he was telling her that she needed to 'find another doctor to do it' – that, 'We were going to do this case. She needs to find someone else,' " Miller says. "And she's like, 'There is no one else.' She's crying — the coordinator — because she's getting yelled at."

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/10/16/nx-s1-5113976/organ-transplantion-mistake-brain-dead-surgery-still-alive

I guess we should be surprised Mitch isn't an organ donor tho...

Disagree. They made a corpse deliver a baby against the family’s wishes. The people in charge are pure evil

They will if they're getting leaned on politically, but you are right in that he's not sitting in a bed, they'll just shove him into the morge if they have one.

They aren't going to let him rot. That isn't connected to the possibility of him ever regaining consciousness whether a replacement is called for.

I don't think anyone here thinks he's literally just sitting out on a hospital bed flat lined.

They could lie about him being there

Keep pushing back. Don't let these disingenuous, self-righteous Lemmy users skate by without addressing the actual argument.

For the record, I don't support the Republican Party, MAGA, or Mitch McConnell.

I just find this kind of rhetoric frustrating because it gets reflexively upvoted. It gives people the warm feeling that they're standing up to oppression without requiring them to engage with whether the claim is actually true. It's more about reinforcing the group's narrative than critically examining the argument.

I think for a lot of those kinds of people it's pathological. For example, I remember reading in Careless People (a memoir by a former Facebook/Meta employee) about some of the things the author witnessed about Mark Zuckerberg made it seem like he only wanted to do things because no one else could, not because he personally derived any enjoyment out of it. I've seen this personally with philanthropists too. They don't actually like the disadvantaged kids they're helping (I'm talking literal racists), but they like the idea that they're the only ones that these kids can turn to. Basically I'm saying I don't think they believe life is zero-sum, but they have a pathological need to create zero-sum circumstances where they are the "winners" and the rest of us losers.

They believe everything is zero-sum

Well, they're right about that. The Earth, and all the resources on it, are finite. The more any one person owns, the less everyone else can own. Now, I would agree that the Earth's resources are abundant, and that there's more than enough for everyone on Earth (at our current population level, at least) to not only survive but thrive. But, because the Earth's resources are finite, it's not possible for any one person to own an infinite amount of resources, let alone for that person to own infinite resources and there still be resources leftover for everyone else.

Prevents a special election where Thomas Massie could win, making a huge stink for Trump, who had him primaried.