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[–] 210 points 4 months ago (15 children)

That moment you're reminded that, oh yeah, this guy was a comedian back in simpler times.

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  • [–] 114 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Its not even his comedic acting background.

    Zelenskyy has charisma. Contrast that with a senile lunatic who almost definitely had shit his pants by this point in the interview and...

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  • [+] 31 points 4 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    He REALLY isn't. He can barely speak a coherent sentence and somehow the party of homophobia is cool with a guy who can only dance by miming a blowbang.

    There are two big keys to his success and they are true of many populist leaders:

    1. His support base know they are as dumb as he is, if not dumber, and are glad they have a leader who won't use big words like "because".
    2. The vast majority of people never see him. They see a highly edited clip on tiktok or just hear that he said they should beat a trans person on Facebook and so forth.

    Contrast that with someone like Big Daddy Z. "I would love to visit but we are too busy destroying it" really isn't anything new and there are countless quotes along those lines from WW2 and the like. But he has basic people skills, a great smile, and knows how to sound like a human being where "I might not always agree with you but I would totally share a drink". And it works. It belittles the opposition, reminds people of Ukraine's current accomplishments, and makes you like the guy.

    That is charisma.

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  • [+] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You’re getting downvoted, but you’re absolutely right. For a certain type of American, he is magnetic. It’s the same type who goes to megachurches. Those preachers are obvious charlatans to you and me, but in white trash culture, they are top-of-the-heap alpha male leaders with all the answers.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The people for whom trump has "charisma" for have a series of mental health issues that the rest of us don't have.

    tl;dr only people who are severely fucked in the head think he has charisma. The rest of us don't see it or comprehend it because we ain't fucked up in the head.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Other people are disagreeing, since he's not really smooth the way the term implies. But, maybe he has a different kind. Charisma is hard to define.

    Trumpism predated Trump, though. He was just the first rich guy willing to openly say horrible things in the primary.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It isn't charisma, it is convenience. The convenience to be an asshole without repercussion, is what Trump promises. His backers want to become Trump.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    I reckon there's correlation there, but causation is inverse of what the the parent comment suggested:

    He was a pretty good (from what I've seen) comedian because he was charismatic, not charismatic because he was a comedian

    Of course I personally still can't get over the penis piano playing lmao. I wish more countries had the balls to vote for someone like that.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Senile lunatic once was middle-aged fresh president and he also used to be sharp. It is just he's senile today, and probably can be considered sharp for his age.

    The only difference is that he outright lies off the screen to his people while Zelensky does not.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    His face says "why do I have to sit here and listen to this raving lunatic"

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago*

    I imagine he had to unlearn the Biden years when he was dealing with actual world leaders. He clearly went in that mode to the first Trump meetings which didn't quite work.

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    I'm not even sure it was a joke. Didn't look like he was kidding at all.

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  • [–] 62 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    Dry humour at its best. Delivery is king in comedy.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (14 children)

    Right, I get all that, but I don't think he was joking about this. I don't think he or his fellow countrymen are joking about these things. I wouldn't anyway.

    πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ What do I know though.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago

    Nah he would definitely joke about it, as would many of his countrymen, although obviously not all.

    Gallows humour is a coping mechanism for difficult situations for a lot of people, while others of course can't stand it at all.

    Personally, if I happened to be in the actual gallows, I'd be making stupid ass jokes that make everyone else wish they'd die sooner

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (11 children)

    So he's joking and not joking?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    If everything he said was true, and it was funny, does that contradict each other?

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I guess everyone is misunderstanding me.

    I'm not saying he was joking as in saying something that wasn't true. I'm just saying he wasn't trying to be funny.

    It's not a joking matter.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    He was joking because if he actually wanted to go to Moscow he could tell his troops to not attack him while he is there. So there being a lot of drones there is irrelevant.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Well thats obvious but it's not like he said that just to make a joke, I think while being funny there was still intent with him saying that.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes. Sometimes the truth is funny. And sometimes humor is dark.

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  • [–] 81 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Fucking legend. More proof of my theory that comedians should govern.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    LOL! Kudos to President Zelensky. I do not know how he can hold his composure while sitting near a fucking Russian asset.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago

    That's why he was a comedian before becoming president....

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago

    Lol, what a great line!

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  • [–] 76 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Once again I would like to apologize to President Zelenskyy on behalf of the 49% of my fellow voters who decided a corrupt, incompetent, demented rapist was a great idea.

    Thank you for being able to roll with it while we get our #%@ s**t together.

    Progressives, can you meet me on camera 3?

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    β…” of eligible US voters chose their current federal representation.

    β…“ actively. β…“ passively.

    It was an indisputable majority who chose this outcome. If the US wants to argue this is not who they are, then its citizenry needs to prove it.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    The cool thing about drones is they only hit enemies. Usually.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    A US destroyer in WW2 accidentally fired a torpedo and nearly hit the ship that Franklin D. Roosevelt was on.

    https://www.military.com/history/how-navy-destroyer-almost-killed-fdr-torpedo.html

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    That was a very cursed ship. Almost as cursed as HMAS Melbourne, which sunk two allied smwarships in peacetime, had a bunch of planes just fall off, and eventually was accidentally sold to PR China where they reverse engineered some of her secret systems

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    I don't see why not, once the tanks roll in to reclaim Muscovy for the new Kievan Rus'

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  • I'd visit the flat sheet of glass that will be where Moscow is but only briefly due to exposure limits.

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  • [+] -32 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Haha. What happened to 50% of Ukraine population funny clown man? Was it worth it?

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