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[–] 60 points 4 months ago (14 children)

Honestly, the ability to install whatever the fuck I wanted was the last thing tying me to android phones.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    As someone with a phone which is not supported by non-android projects. What is the alternative here?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    How is e/os these days? Last time I checked it wasn't that good.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    My Pixel 6A died from water damage two weeks ago. Bought a Fairphone 6, flashed /e/ and relocked the bootloader. For a slightly tech savvy person really easy to do. So far, everything works fine including 3/3 banking apps. I didn't install any Google made apps and except for the gboard keyboard and Android Auto I don't miss anything. Both could be easily installed, but I'll try to stay away on purpose. I'm really happy and can recommend! :)

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    aside from various used models (OnePlus 6, Pixel 3a, various old Xiaomi devices, etc.), the Fairphones are your best bet when it comes to Linux phones (as you specify non-Android based projects). The Jolla phone might also be something worth looking at!

    iodeOS, e/OS, GrapheneOS, and CalyxOS (they've come back, hooray!) are all great options if you want a degoogled Android ROM (but is still based on AOSP, so not fully independent) and are well supported on the Fairphones and Pixels, as well as a few other devices. These degoogled ROMs are the best option we have now, mobile Linux needs more time in the oven, and will give you more control over your device compared to stock Android! (don't let perfect be the enemy of good and all that)

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    You'll still be able to sideload things on Android, including from unverified developers. There's a once-off setup that makes you wait 24 hours though. https://www.theverge.com/tech/897420/android-sideloading-unverified-developers-process

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Let's not use "sideload", as you're just installing apps.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    True - I just stuck with Google's naming for consistency.

    I absolutely agree that you should be able to install anything on a device you've paid for. Unfortunately, the world's been moving away from that for years, and I'm not sure what we can do to avoid it.

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    [–] 17 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I hope some regulators pounce onto this.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    This god forsaken country will probably never regulate a corporation again

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago

    Google is a piece of shit and alphabet is the asshole. YouTube is the fart.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago

    Jolla's launch day event is today, they should be shipping the first phones sometime today as well. Can't wait to finally get rid of this google spyware!

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    The “9 steps and 24 hours waiting” thing is kinda misleading: that's once. Only the last two steps (the ones matching today's steps) have to be repeated.

    Of course that's still an issue (e.g. you'll only be able to do this for a relative if you see them two days in a row) but it's much less bad than the implied “9 steps and 24 hours waiting every time”

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Considering it - appears - to also need Google Play services then I don't know how that will affect degoogled phones.

    I've disabled all the Google services on my phone, and I'm able to restart them if necessary, but I don't have a google account (which has to be tied to a physical phone number?), so it's all waaay to sketchy for me.

    And the API that connects to? Is that auditing anything else of mine? Capturing yet more data?

    Not happy, me.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    We can still do the abd install tho ay?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    This shit's nuts, wasn't there a time when google phones were a direct iphone competitor and iphone was only good with Cydia? The next phone I get will have to be a good GrapheneOS phone or I'm gonna have to figure out how to make an OS. Either way FUhck Google and all they're worth. I've been using the startpage.com on Vivaldi browser and it's like using old google.

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    By the way. You cannot ever add an app to the only store you're allowed to use that does not accept ads that we will force on all customers.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago

    Yeah convenience usually comes with trade-offs.

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