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[–] 160 points 4 months ago (9 children)

When I was out and about today, I listened to the head of The Onion being interviewed on NPR. He talked a lot about the ways Alex Jones has tried to get out of paying the families of the Sandy Hook kids that were killed like he's required to. They tried to devalue Info Wars, and then have a shell company buy it at auction for a tiny amount so that there would be no money to pay the families. Apparently that was the original motivation for The Onion bidding on it and bidding it up: to make sure there was money for the families, and also they thought they could do something with it.

That whole thing is still in litigation, with Jones saying the company really has no value. So The Onion is releasing new content of the kind they intend to do on the site, in hopes that people will stream it and show the judge that there's an audience and a value. I decided to watch the first episode even if it's terrible, to give them the views.

It's not terrible, it's hilarious. Well worth watching. Note that some of the commercials are theirs, and you might not want to skip those.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Alex Jones is truly a malevolent POS (person of shit) and so are his fans. I wish nothing but the worst for them.

    I caught the live stream about halfway through. I skipped back to the beginning and I really enjoyed it. I plan on watching it every week, hopefully live, to help boost their numbers.

    The ad for Oxygyn was truly hilarious and I like that they're still running with "Turn Your Piss into Gold."

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  • [–] 68 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Omg I have been waiting to see what they do with this IP. I gotta make sure I come back.

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  • [–] 58 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    It looks like they'll be doing a live stream every Thursday evening.

    Tonight's was great. I learned a lot. Like JFK didn't kill himself. I never ever considered that he might have been assassinated.

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  • [–] -5 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    It's a brand, a name. It's not "IP". There is no such thing as intellectual property, it's a manipulative term.

    That being said, agree with the sentiment! This is great 😊

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    People arguing against IP either have never created anything, or have their “creative” endeavours backed by family wealth.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Tbh I agree with the general spirit of what they are saying but IP is obviously a valid legal construct and wishing it wasn't doesn't change that, and I didn't really appreciate being "well aCkshULly"d so I hit the down arrow anyway lol

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Intellectual property is as real as any other property is: it's all made up by people, but it has the force of social/economic/governmental institutions behind it so it can affect your life.

    It's just that legal concepts tend to attract discussions by people who can't tell the difference between a descriptive or positive argument (how things are) versus a normative argument (how things should be).

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    What the fuck are you even talking about? "Intellectual property" is a term pushed by corporations and their lawyers to lump together very different legal regimes like copyright, trademark, regional indications or patents, under one supposedly common name. Doing this really has the main advantage of making it possible to use the language of theft when talking about things that can be infinitely copied, and therefore can't be stolen. "Stolen IP" makes about as much sense as "unauthorised colour".

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

    OH YEAH I totally forgot that The Onion acquired InfoWars after Alex Jones was forced to sell due to multiple legal proceedings including his divorce and a lawsuit from Sandy Hook shooting victims that he claimed were actors.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Apparently the actual sale of Infowars is still tied up in court. What they're doing here is just creating their own Infowars despite that, consequences be damned. Alex Jones isn't in any position to protect the trademark and The Onion is calling it parody.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Alex Jones doesn't own any IP any more. His bankruptcy estate owns the shares in the business that used to be his. So Alex Jones can't sue for any infringement. In fact Alex Jones continued to illegally use the studio and the branding for months after he lost the rights to do so.

    In theory Jones's bankruptcy estate's liquidator / administrator could sue on behalf of the estate. But that guy was trying to award the auction to the Onion in the first place.

    The Onion tried to strike a short term lease deal, which hasn't been approved yet. So they're just going to make the lease payments to the plaintiffs directly for the time being.

    And they think they're in a pretty legally defensible situation, because, hey, who's going to sue them?

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    By the way, the court ruled that the judgement can't be discharged in bankruptcy. So Jones is coming out of bankruptcy, and he still owes the full amount (less whatever is collected from the Onion) personally. He doesn't get a clean slate. Any future income of his can be garnished and assets seized down to some minimum. For the rest of his life.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I thought there was another issue. I'm so glad, I fucking love it.

    Edit: I think this show is going to get followers like Colbert got followers because they thought it was real. There's a hole to fill.

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  • [–] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    I lost hope before that The Onion have lost the legal battle to acquire InfoWars. But alas, there is indeed a god!

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Tim's going to completely shred his voice doing this character

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The lying mainstream media is not even mentioning his death!!!!!111

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    Haven't been able to watch it all yet; have to head to work. But man oh man, Jim Haggerty with the everyman Colbert Show vibes. Love it. And Tim's Alex Jones impression is spot...on.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    First half of the headline got me lol

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago

    The parody is just so on point. Could have gone with an even more clowny version of Alex J*nes, but extending the stuttering bluster to be the entire runtime of the show would be gauche.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago

    I'm being lied to... RIGHT now.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Realizing the headline isn't real:

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I just want Knowledge Fight back.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Did they stop? I feel like I listened to some new episodes earlier this year

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

    They quit in May of this year, shortly after the Onion announced their plans for InfoWars.com. Jordan had a very negative reaction to the Onion development, and streamed this on Twitch. Dan and Jordan couldn’t agree on a way to move forward, and amicably parted ways. They explain the situation in the penultimate episode, the last studio episode. The final episode was a pre-scheduled live show that they both agreed to go through with.

    Jordan still streams occasionally on Twitch at jay_bee_holmes. I’m still waiting for whatever Dan does next.

    Edit: Dan just dropped the first episode of his new podcast, minutes after I posted this! What a coincidence. It’s on the old KF feed.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm interested, what's it called? Not sure what the old feed was.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Is that Jordan video really just an hour of one word every twenty seconds?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    No, the intro is long, then he comes on and talks. It’s not good. I don’t recommend watching it. I think it was a manic episode, and it was a while ago, so there’s nothing to be done about it now. Knowledge Fight is over.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    He's been dead for 15 years, replaced by one of those Men In Black bodies with a bug in the head.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    i'm pretty sure that's not where the bug is

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    HOG WATER! HOG WATER! HOG WATER!

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Jim Mother-Fucking Haggerty!

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    Popped like a balloon

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I thought infowars.com was being taken over - is it not?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    They are fighting as much as possible to prevent the onion takeover

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    pictures for sad children.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    This Elf must be stopped.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    I just made it to the first “commercial break”. Damn I’m glad to have the day off.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    I wasn't sure what to expect. But this was pretty good for what it is. Fuck Alex Jone and InfoWars.

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  • Don't they own the Alex Jones character? I would have just used a generated Alex Jones suit on an actor and gotten increasingly uncanny with it.

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  • [+] -32 points 4 months ago (17 children)

    The onion sucks, and plagarizes better men.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (15 children)

    Oh shit! -5 rating on Voyager and you're wrong here and you're a fucking asshole based on history. Go put a firecracker in your pee hole bro. Easy block.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (7 children)

    Your blocklist is working? Mine hasn't in like a month

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    It seems to be working as far as I can tell.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    that makes one of us. i tried blocking you an hour ago as a test before sending this and unblocking you.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I did just notice a guy I thought I blocked show up in my feed... I wonder what is going on.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    the admins got tired of the mods complaining that people weren't just blocking and moving on so they disabled the blocklists? sounds like something the admins would do

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    🤷. I did just check and the guy I thought I had blocked wasn't actually blocked. Voyager is a little finicky with stuff you've blocked so it's not that easy for me to test.

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  • [+] -10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Ha ha, says someone that has never produced material. You aren't a producer, you feed off attacking downvoted comments because you have nothing positive to contribute yourself.

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    [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Imagine going back in time to tell your past self that InfoWars fucking slaps.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)