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[–] 178 points 4 months ago (111 children)

Also fun: your own household furnishings or a toddler with a gun were always a greater danger to you than terrorism, speaking in terms of probabilities.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 52 points 4 months ago (41 children)

    You're not wrong, but guns are a civic religion here in the US. There are lots and lots and lots of guns that are easily accessible by toddlers.

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Always (and I mean always) lock up your guns

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Typical elitist liberal, where am I supposed to get the money for this gun safe? You want me to sell my brand new f-150?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Aren't guns supposed to be to fight tyrannical governments or something in the US? Where is that? I've been told by Americans that all the gun deaths were worth it in the case of what is currently happening there

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  • [+] [S] -2 points 4 months ago (22 children)
  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (21 children)

    Don't look at me. I purposely didn't have kids. Kids are awful.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago (20 children)

    I purposely didn't have kids, not because they're awful, but because of unstoppable, irreversible climate change and ecocide.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago (16 children)

    As a parent i fully support this chance.

    One of the reasons i do have kids is because i recognise how rational people who think critically of the current world will easily adopt this logic.

    Meaning the future will be largely populated by children of people who are not capable to think critically.

    I did always have a child-wish, so maybe it’s part excuse, but it’s a strategic excuse. Either humanity has irreversibly failed or it has not yet meaning i have to try increase the chance on future our survival. (No pressure on them though, they get to decide their future and i might win hope if i am lucy)

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (14 children)

    Nah fuck that, we drive 200 other species to extinction per day. The faster earth shakes off its case of humanity, the better the rest of the natural worlds chances at rebounding in a million years become.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    There are days i agree, others where discover a beauty that showcases our infinite potential.

    Regardless the doomer perspective does not help me to fix any of our problems, all it does is give me mental illness. There is a short path between lost hope and suicide ideation. So i choose to not lose hope and continue to try to do some good to push the scale.

    I like the irony in your username btw.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (11 children)

    Nah fuck this doomer anti-child shit. You can affect positive change on a local scale. If all the intelligent, compassionate people that understand this stop having children we're gonna be even more fucked than we are in a few generations' time.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know how much you know about it, but we are an extinction event. We've released more CO2 into the atmosphere in 200 years than at any point in the earth's history. Thousands of times faster than any other CO2 related extinction event, including volcanoes and meteors the size of countries. I'm not worried about humans in a few generations time, because there won't be any left.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Quite literally the main theme in Idiocracy

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I keep hearing about this film gonna have to queue it up. It's worth a watch right?!

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's funny, except the entire core principle of the movie is eugenics. If you can get past that, it's great.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That and the fact that the movie seems to be more of a forecast as opposed to just comedy at this point...

    The movie is also pretty stupid (this is the point, I know), but when you see it rhyming so heavily with the current state of things - it's only a little painful.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And awful. The last thing I could ever want is coming home from work exhausted and have to take care of a screaming child who shit itself.

    I just come home, feed my chickens, collect eggs, let the dog outside unsupervised while I leave the front door cracked so he can come in when he's ready and crack a beer.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Why are they accessible by toddlers? Have your "civic religions" not heard of a lockbox or even a high shelf?

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    No need to ask me questions like this as if I personally support it.

    And yes, people here are aware of all the safety measures available. They just care more about convenience or otherwise don't care at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, yeah, sorry mate. I didn't mean to imply you support it. I added the quotation marks because I wasn't attributing them as your civic religions. I definitely didn't mean to offend. Honestly, I'm just annoyed with some gun owners not taking the bare minimum protection measures, making those that do take precautions still look like twats. And, for the record, my opinion on gun control is that if you own a gun, you must control who has access to it, that you are responsible for its use/misuse, and that the governments shouldn't have such a say on whether you're allowed to own it. I've seen first hand what can happen when the citizens are fully unarmed, and I don't particularly want to live through that again, so yes, you should be able to own a gun (safely stored).

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I appreciate that. I hate it all too.

    There have been some minor positive developments at least. A few of the school shooters in recent years have had their parents arrested and locked up for proven negligence. I hope it will become a trend.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    This is the correct government/law official response, in my opinion, and I hope it'll continue. Everyone is so focused on AI and privacy (not at all insignificant concerns), that gun restrictions seem to get passed pretty easily across the globe, and those "I can own a gun no matter what and leave it on the kitchen counter if I want to" blokes make it that much easier for those laws to pass. It worries me.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

    Hurm duuhrr acyually your toddler needs a gun presnet to develop natural immunity, because there are no vaccines for guns checkmate. /s

    I'm amused anyone would downvote you for making such an obviously correct statement.

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (8 children)
  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Don't think everyone having guns is going to make things much safer. That said, I don't really have a horse in that fight.

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  • [+] [S] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    2A evangelists always said we need so many guns in America in case of governmental overreach. In case we need to defend against authoritarians and prevent fascism. In case they decide to lock us up for free speech, or illegally kidnap us, or even murder us in the streets...

    My friend, that's all happening now, with not a peep from the adherents. How were all the gun deaths, school shootings, and suicides worth it if it prevented nothing!?

    Also, "And crazies also like to go to places with gun free zones." Do you have a source for that? It sounds eerily similar to boomers claiming there's so much more crime these days despite hard evidence to the contrary...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Mexico isn't more dangerous, except for the CIA funded stuff. If Mexico weren't sitting on the US border it would be shockingly safe.

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  • [+] [S] 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    except for the CIA funded stuff

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (26 children)

    You are a horrible parent if you have a gun anywhere

    Could have stopped there.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    You are a horrible parent

    Could have stopped there...

    Oh fuck, that reminds me... gotta go!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    Not sure if you're talking about me or not, but I don't live in a country that requires a firearm at all times because anyone can buy them 2 for 1 on sale at Wal Mart, and also I would make an awful parent which is why I don't have kids.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Oh sorry, I was actually trying to make a self deprecating joke about myself. Or actually a hypothetical version of myself that had kids and was a bad parent.

    Which is why I added the whole "talking about being a bad parent reminds me that I had to go take care of my kids" outro.

    Clearly I'll need to work on my material.

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  • [+] [S] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (18 children)
  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (17 children)

    If a bugler can get by my dogs without getting mauled to death, or my military training, god bless them.

    Also, most robberies in Canada are done without firearms. Since... You know... They're not exactly common here.

    Also if you own a gun just to prevent imaginary robberies and dream of being able to shoot and kill someone, you might want to seek professional help. Most people don't want to kill someone.

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  • [+] [S] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    You best be thankful you never lived in a dangerous neighbourhood.

    Then you didn't know where I lived when I went to school in Toronto. Kitty-Corner from me was a pay by hour hotel. Lots of hookers, escorts, pimps, drugs, etc.

    They just didn't have guns. Because they're hard to come by in Canada and don't come with the same dick stroking reputation as it does in the States. No one cares about guns here because our country doesn't masturbate over the idea of having them.

    I've known multiple drug dealers in my life. None of them owned guns.

    Perhaps you should self reflect that this problem you have with needing to "protect" your family with killing machines because other people have such easy access to those same killing machines is purely an America problem, not a global problem.

    I hope you never use those guns on your family. Because statistically you are.

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  • [+] [S] -5 points 4 months ago* (6 children)
  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    Real drug dealers have guns.

    In your shithole of a country maybe. Last I checked your president is putting tariffs on our country because of the vast amounts of fentanyl crossing into your country, or something like that. I think he fell asleep halfway through.

    And you can actually be a safe gun owner.

    Literally no such thing. You cannot own a device who's sole purpose is to kill other humans and be responsible with it. And I say this as a former member of CAF who fired weapons far larger that whatever you have in your purse.

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  • [+] [S] -4 points 4 months ago* (2 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (7 children)

    You are many orders of magnitude more likely to kill yourself or a loved one with a gun in the home than you are to stop an attempted home invasion with a gun. The statistics aren't remotely ambiguous, you are much much much more likely to get shot when you have a gun in your home.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    Again, that's not how statistics work.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (20 children)

    You are a horrible parent if you have a gun anywhere near your toddler.

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  • [+] [S] -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (19 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Do you just live in constant fear of statistically unlikely occurrences? Are you a conservative by chance?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (11 children)

    It you own a gun and have a kid your kid is way more likely to shoot itself or you than a home invader trying to murder you. Like way more.

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    That's not how statistics work.

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    Just doubling and tripling down on not understanding how statistics work.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    I'm a gun owner. I just understand how statistics work, and that you or a household member areway way way more likely to negligently shoot yourself or a family member than to prevent a home invasion.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    Except there's no conclusive data that gun safes reduce the likelihood of a gun death in the household.

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