Range is said to be 205 mi (330 km), higher than the original estimate. This price is for the basic truck. The SUV configuration is expected to be $5000 more.

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[–] 67 points 4 months ago (31 children)

Interesting, the telematics module is sold separately at $275.00. So for everyone worrying about spying, for this vehicle you got to opt-in and pay extra for it.

https://www.slate.auto/en/store/ACCIT010?fromCategoryId=accessories_interior&fromSubcategoryId=accessories_interior_tech

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  • [–] 43 points 4 months ago (20 children)

    Never mind the low price, not having that shit built in is the killer feature for me, making it the only new car I would even consider buying. (It's just too bad they won't have a 4x4 version for another couple of years.)

    It is kinda good that there's an optional module available, though, because it means there's an interface that, in theory, a third-party module running Free Software could hook into.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    You don't need 4 wheel drive with an EV truck, the weight is properly distributed between the 4 wheels, not like stupid pickups that put all the weight over the wrong drive wheels.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    A pickup is supposed to be used such that the weight is properly loaded. If you don't have the back full of firewood or something else anyway you are doing it wrong.

    Then again if you don't have a full 8 foot bed you are doing it wrong, and those are almost impossible to buy.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Pickups don't need 4wd due to poor weight distribution, they need it for traction on loose surfaces.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    JFC...take a physics class. The drive wheels are in back, the cab and motor are in front. Of course there is no traction, all the weight is at the wrong end and 99% of idiots who buy those trucks drive with empty beds.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    My point is that 4WD is never used on pavement in pickups. Many pickups don't even have 4WD and they do just fine, they have plenty of traction on pavement. Trucks don't have 4WD due to weight distribution, they have it so people can take their trucks off the pavement. If you never intend to go off pavement, like so many pickup owners, you don't need 4WD regardless of whether you're in an ICE or EV truck. If you want to go offroad in an ICE or EV truck, you'll want 4WD.

    I have taken a few physics classes, was required to get some science credits to obtain my CS degree. I'm pretty sure they didn't cover this concept as, well, duh.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    There are tons of vehicles vehicles than can drive off road without 4WD. Most of Rally racing has been done with rear wheel drive vehicles, and they're actually racing, not just casually driving. The reason a truck might not be able to handle it is because trucks are actually not set up well for it, unless they're loaded. Like the comment above says, the weight distribution is bad for it, until you load the bed. This isn't true for an EV truck. The weight is further back, so the rear wheels won't lose traction as easily.

    Anyone who thinks they need 4WD to off-road doesn't know what they're talking about. Can it help? Sure. Is it required? Far from it.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Saying 4WD helps offroad is the understatement of the century.

    I've extensively offroaded in vehicles that aren't really built for going offroad - a Subaru Loyale 4x4 with/without a rear locker, a lifted Crown Vic, and a lifted P2 Volvo XC70. The crown vic was so much less capable than the stock Subaru Loyale or the Volvo, even with the trunk full of weight, due to it being RWD. It was all about speed and momentum to get up hills, whereas the Volvo can just crawl up stuff. The Subaru can't crawl up stuff, as it's a manual and doesn't have the low range gearbox, but as long as you stay in the power band of 1st gear it's unstoppable in places the crown vic would be totally spinning out. I always called the crown vic the hammer of offroading, since you kinda were just forced to send it up every steep hill.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    U know what they say, with enough velocity you don't need traction! And with a enough traction u don't need velocity! Mind if I ask what Subaru u are off roading? The old loyale could be had with low range iirc, would kill for one of those bad boys

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, its a 1993 Loyale with the push button 4WD. You could get them with a low range gearbox, but this one does not have that :/

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    That's awesome lol id love to own one of the older Subarus. My first car was a Forester and it was pretty impressive where I could get in that lol. Many years later my "daily" is a 12 Impreza 5 speed with sti sway bars and karthoy end links. It's a great winter beater and the Subaru bug is biting again...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Haha, they're great cars! My Loyale was the first car I ever took the engine out of. It's such a fun car to work on, most things are so easy, if you can get parts.

    I don't like self promo, but I do make videos about it on YouTube and PeerTube if you're more interested, here's links to the playlist:

    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3bEYn02Mtba9lNiSu-KRcnIQieU6-RYP

    https://joeltube.com/w/p/vyS65ydhaGKys2Jp8S9wmo

    Of course no pressure to watch if you aren't!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Lol rally racing is done on dirt roads. It's not off road untill it isn't a road, in which case u need 4x4! Also handy for when there's a foot of snow on the roads, or during mud season around here where u find Subarus bellied out on dirt roads that are now mud pits. Bonus points if you have lockers or limited slips.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I'm fairly sure that the aftermarket will sort out 4x4 situation

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The aftermarket is not going to make an entirely different drive train.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    If there is enough money they will. Though I agree with your doubt that enough people will buy this to make it worth it.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe not for an ICE, but it wouldn't be hard for an EV

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Tons of cars fet drivetrain swaps! It's not bad, lots of kits out there and a little custom fab goes a long way. I have personally put hemis and 8hps in JKs, swapped an 02 drivetrain into my 87 YJ, have swapped a gas V8 rover to a diesel td5, have many auto to manual and vice versa conversion. Hell my co worker just put a Corvette engine in a rover backed by a 6 speed tremec and an adapter plate to the original rover t case. It's surprisingly simple! Hell u can even convert ice to elec pretty easily if u have the where-with-all!

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I read that the telematics package is meant for fleets, not average buyers

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    For remote app to vehicle features:

    Description A plug-and-play solution that acts as a cellular bridge between your smartphone and your Slate vehicle, unlocking features like remote access and battery pre-conditioning.

    Product details Includes: One (1) Telematics Unit, complete with a one year service subscription for your vehicle. Fits all body styles.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I'm fairly sure some spying is required by law, like the new driver cam legislation. Wonder how they'll get past that.

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  • [–] 57 points 4 months ago

    I hate the state of current website reporting.

    so many sites give so much information but absolutely refuses to provide the original website or source. Instead, deciding to send the viewer through ClickHell as they try to navigate their own website sending the user in circles usually via links that go to their own pages to propagate views/clicks. I hate it

    How hard is it to just link to the Slate's main webpage after reporting on the product that way, the viewer can look at it themselves. Not one of the web pages they link there or any of the pages in said links lead to the actual vehicles site that they are reporting on.

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  • [–] 129 points 4 months ago (55 children)

    As Canadian…

    American company?, nope

    Owned by Bezos?, hell nah

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  • [–] 63 points 4 months ago (23 children)

    Bezos was one investor, not the owner

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  • [–] 59 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (22 children)

    Slate raised at least $111 million in Series A financing, including an undisclosed amount from Bezos. Slate then raised $600 million in 2024 from Mark Walter, the controlling owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers and CEO of Guggenheim Partners, Jeff Bezos, and General Catalyst, a venture capital firm.[5] In mid-2026, the company said it had completed a $650m series C investment round, which took its total capital raised to $1.4bn.[6]

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    Bezos was seed money AND part of the owner conglomerate that raised all the capital the company started with in 2024. That is enough for me to avoid this like the plague as it will, certain as the sun is hot, be enshitified to the core

    If you do not believe me, here is an article explaining how this is all a big Amazon initiative

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (21 children)

    I would truly not be surprised that this would be an attempt to take over there ev truck market, but manufacturers should have been paying attention. There's a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    While I'm sure they'll try to enshittify, the downside to that plan is that they need to make sure no one takes their place and they need to have something people want that they can enshittify. The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    I drove a small truck at one point. Think a late 90s Tacoma, Ranger, or something like that. I don't want an F250. I don't want a Ram 3500. I just want to be able to haul a bed full of bikes to the MTB trail and help my friends move a washing machine.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Slate has a size comparison widget on their website. You can show it with the silhouette of a current full size pickup and a circa 1985 small pickup. It's almost exactly the same size as that generation.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    Absolutely correct. The American car makers keep on saying "we only want big trucks" but that is complete BS, there is plenty of demand for smaller trucks which is why they have lobbied the gov to all but ban any possible import

    The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.

    While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.

    If the company is not for sale, then they would have the monopoly on small trucks and thus, freedom to enshitify

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.

    I agree, but without the complications of a combustion engine, it makes it a lot easier. You can buy ev conversion kits for around $15k, so there's also an "I'll make my own, with blackjack, and hookers" option.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    There's a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    Ford is. The Maverick is selling like hotcakes (not the 60s coupe). And they have an electric small truck coming soon as well. There's also Tello.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    There's a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    That's incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.

    Toyota is about to release one to compete with the Maverick, and Dodge has a small and a mid sized truck in the works.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

    Those are midsized. I would say Hyundai is the only one with the Santa Cruz, and that's not really a truck.

    Edit: I stand corrected, I had assumed the maverick was rwd/awd, not fwd/awd. I'm going to amend my statement and say the maverick is also not really a truck. I consider having the drive wheels under the payload to be an important aspect of a truck. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz

    Neither are small.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I'm guessing you've never seen them next to a regular pickup. They're 20-40in shorter in length than a Ram 1500 (depending on cab configuration).

    My Santa Cruz is shorter than their engine compartment. When I park between two regular trucks mine looks like a hotwheels truck.

    Shit, it's even smaller than a Toyota Helix.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    That’s incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.

    And they are still inefficient monsters compared to what a real small truck should be:

    Ford Maverick (2022+):

    • Length: Approx. 199.7 inches (5.07 meters) almost 1.7 meters larger, 6 feet or so

    • Width: Approx. 72.6 inches (1.84 meters)

    • Height: Approx. 68.7 inches (1.75 meters)

    • Bed Length: 4.5 feet (approx. 54 inches / 1.37 meters) 45% LESS cargo space than a kei truck

    Typical Kei Truck (e.g., Suzuki Carry):

    • Length: Max legal limit is 3.4 meters (133.9 inches / 11.15 feet).

    • Width: Max legal limit is 1.48 meters (58.3 inches). Often around 1.4 meters.

    • Height: Varies, but typically around 1.9–2.0 meters (75–79 inches) including the cab/bed height, though the cargo bed side walls are very low (often ~1 meter total height from ground).

    • Bed Length: Typically around 2.0 meters (78 inches / 6.5 feet), which is actually longer than the Maverick's bed in some configurations relative to the vehicle length, though the total footprint is much smaller.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    You gotta add a normal US truck to your stats.

    The Santa Cruz and Maverick are 2-3.5ft shorter than a Ram 1500.

    I have a Santa Cruz, and it looks like a toy truck next to the normal ones. Especially next to duallies.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    oh yes most others are way bigger… but I was comparing the "small" trucks that are actually available in the USA to make the point they are not in the same level the real small trucks are

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    For the life of me I don’t know why we don’t develop something like this in Canada. It’s so frustrating, we have the people, the manufacturing space, the materials, we could do this.

    Whenever something about Canada making vehicles gets brought up, all the nay sayers climb on immediately saying how it can’t be done. I’m sick and tired of them. Nothing worth doing comes easy, if left to these naysayers we’d all be still living in squalor.

    We need to move away from the U.S. entanglement, the American public can’t be trusted to elect a proper government.

    Building our own low cost, modest feature vehicles would be an excellent start. How many features of a car do people use for a normal commute to work, or such? I’d love a truck like the Slate, except it has to have 4 wheel drive ability. After having Hondas with all wheel drive, I’ll never go back to an older 2 wheel drive vehicle.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Before the current political chaos, you would have made a mint. A little ingenuity and affordable value, along with the worlds second biggest car market next door would have been huge

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    I heard that Bezos left the company as an investor. I don't blame you for disliking anything American, but Slate Auto seems alright so far...

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    He was never "in it"; but he put up the seed money, then participated in the main round of fund raising and placed a ton of his people in the company. So even if his is not personally involved, he has all the strings he needs to pull it where he wants it to go (which, IMO, means Slate will be enshitified to the full the moment those little trucks start selling)

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    What I wonder is how exactly are they going to enshittify it? It's extremely barebones and modular in a way that anyone can design add-ons and accessories for it. I can see them doing subscriptions and the like for various add-ons but you can always just get the base model and get add-ons elsewhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    They can betray the customer in many different ways... I am not willing to pay $25K to find out

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Generally yes, but with a modular and simple-by-design vehicle... how though?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    They could simply stop producing certain parts, sneak a specific custom piece somewhere, provide no diagrams or documentation for third parties to produce repairs. They could simply design parts that fail just after warranty. There is an app that goes with it, right there they have the chance to scan and sell your data, push ads to you, track your driving, etc.

    I don't know exactly but there are more ways they can enshitify a product than my imagination allows.

    You see, greedy people do not enshitify for sport, they do it for greed as enshitification means more money for them. So unless you are convinced Bezos put money here to help people and not make as much money as possible back, the only logical conclusion is that he wants to milk it as hard as possible, this is what he does.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Same as a European, I do hope it succeeds though and as much as I hate bezos if he's backing shit like this my opinion of him has increased by about 3.83%.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    New Chinese EVs will be hitting the streets soon. Much cheaper and higher quality.

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  • [+] -8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Higher quality from CCP run China. Nope. If the EV was from Taiwan, then yes.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's never going to be released. Zero prototypes and being pushed by a billionaire.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    At this point I think there's a high likelihood that production will start close to their plan of late this year. As the other commenter said, you can go watch multiple videos of test drives. Pre-orders opened yesterday. But what do I know?

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago*

    They've been promoting it recently and have several working prototypes that they've been driving influencers around in. There was one video with Marques Brownlee and they even let him drive it himself.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    Sounds like it's your chance to pull an Edison (like the Canadian Edison semi trucks).

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Ew Edison...

    But yes, some other poster also was surprised something like this could not be started up in Canada

    I know our government here is also crappy and has tried to squash related initiatives before but I should look into it more

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    Is your issue with the man or the company? I actually don't know much about Edison trucks beyond that they exist.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    The man... Edison was last century Jobs, best that can be said is that he had a good eye for business but basically just took other people's work, milked them and toss them aside making a profit for himself in the process without regards to the harm he was knowingly causing

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yes I'm aware of his story. The Canadian company named themselves such because they were stealing Tesla's (Elon musk's company) idea for the electric semi namely because they never delivered and the guy really wanted one so figured he may as well make one himself. They seem like a pretty decent company, although very small.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    FYI: it looks like slate has switched battery chemistry and suppliers. They will now be using LFP batteries. Cheaper, but they'll last longer. Especially if you charge them to 100% and discharge them below 15%.

    An overall win, as there was a zero chance I would have bought one if they put the NMC batteries in it they were going to use.

    There will no longer be battery options for a small 150 mile range battery or a bigger battery that would go around 240 miles, though. Now (due to LFP batteries not being as energy dense) there's only going to be one battery option that they claim will have a 205 mile range.

    Unfortunately for me, this means I won't be getting one. I need to go 180 miles round trip between charges, and that's just cutting it way too close. Especially during winter time when the range would be reduced by quite a bit.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, same for me. Buying groceries or going to see a doctor is a 100+mile round trip for me. At a 240 mile range, it was doable for me. At around 205 miles, that's cutting it really close considering winters here can be very cold trimming the range. And while I know I can charge at home, chargers in the wild are still far and few between.

    I still want one though. I'm very jealous of those can find them useful. The whole concept of being able to absolutely repair and change your base vehicle at home and when you want to is going to be a big selling point to many.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Yeah. I'm hoping it's a big success and after a couple model years all our supply issues with Trump's dumbass and AI and lack of tax incentives for EV will be different and they release one with a longer range. I want a 20 year vehicle (my Prius is about 20 and it's still going like a boss at nearly 300k miles) so ideally, with battery ware and such, I'd like one that would start with a 300 mile range. I'd expect that to get me 200 miles in the winter after 10 years of battery ware.

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  • [–] 38 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Hello Nissan and Toyota. Where are your small EV and hybrid pick-up trucks?

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    The new Hilux does have both mhev and bev version.

    Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hilux

    Seems like it's available everywhere except america

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