So youre saying its better to not vote at all?

Can you point out where I said that? Because I'm pretty confident that I never did.

What are you actually doing to change anything ?

Voting against the people who got us into this mess. Supporting mutual aid networks, and charities. Supporting the homeless. Building and pushing FOSS systems.

Also not a liberal.

If you aren't a liberal, then why are you defending the worst of liberal policies and people?

“Abandoned trans people” wow thats so terrible compared to the R’s that openly advocate for murdering them (and gay people) and support christian nationalist terrorists. Come on here, one party is clearly doing a hell of a lot worse shit than the other.

So it's OK that the Dems use them as pawns, rather than grow a spine and support marginalized people? Dems only use them because they are easily visible. Look at what the Dems to to immigrants, or people in other countries. They are just biding their time before they go mask-off towards trans people.

I’m agreeing that both are bad but what is not voting going to do about that? Youre not proving youre better than the system by not participating.

Once again, where did I say that?

I'm not arguing for doing nothing, though. My position is that we need an entirely new system, a socialist system, and that to get there we need an organized, mass socialist party, mass class consciousness among the working class, and a crisis within the capitalist system that leaves the capitalist class weak. The first two are directly controllable by those of us that work to build up the socialist party and educate our fellow workers, and the last is made inevitable by capitalism itself. I'm arguing that we need to educate, agitate, and organize.