▲ 240 ▼ Binance targeted in $6.3 billion crypto heist, the largest ever (www.nbcnews.com) submitted 1 week ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] inari@kbin.earth -2 points 1 week ago (16 children) Turns out centralized banking has its benefits permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago (12 children) This is a centralized exchange. This attack could be mitigated by encouraging users to move their funds to their own wallets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago It's easier to revert a fraudulent bank movement than a crypto one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] copingwithelmons@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children) But yeah, he's gotta point. Why don't central banks loose money like this? Is it because their cash isn't in a Blockchain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Because it's the bank, financial institutions and the trail of transactions registered to known entities who say whose the money is. For crypto you only need the keys and it is yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago Banks also have control of their own ledgers and can just issue a reversal transaction. If it's between two banks, it'll be more complex, but overall that's still the case permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Since crypto is more of a trading asset than currency, they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Yeah yeah "actually they're currency" blah blah, except they're not really usable as currency in the functional real world (just like stocks) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (3 children) Closest by far is Monero. They are actually willing to spend it as a currency, and when looking at statistics from companies that accept different cryptocurrencies, Monero is always either number one or number two on the list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children) companies that accept different cryptocurrencies But this is the issue, that's like 0.0001% of possible places you can use your funds (probably I'm way too generous with that number), and none of it to not die from hunger, cold or dehydration. And the volatility is still absolutely absurd for something to be used as currency, like all other Cryptos it is dominated by instability and speculation to an excessive degree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet. But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses. What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Hot wallets are for small amounts for daily spending It's the same as constantly going to the ATM to get cash in your wallet.... Nobody carries around their whole net worth in their pockets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago What that statement ment was, that you can't use it to invest and diversify you portfolio if its not in an exchange. So unless you keep the majority in the exchange, you can't trade it without paying the transaction fees every time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago You can use decentralized exchanges. permalink fedilink source parent [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Seriously (why are you downvoted?). How do you even go about refunds or fraudulent charges in crypto? Are you essentially powerless against scammers and thieves/hackers? Apparently private wallets are not safe as those are seemingly hacked most commonly, every virus and crack looks for it. Online exchanges get constantly hacked and online wallets have a tendency to randomly rug pull. Entire crypto scene is basically banking but "we got blackjack and hookers so we are better" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nullspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago It's gambler mentality. Maybe you might make some money, maybe you'll lose it all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Gordito@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago I don't think that word means what you think it means. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago (12 children) This is a centralized exchange. This attack could be mitigated by encouraging users to move their funds to their own wallets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago It's easier to revert a fraudulent bank movement than a crypto one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] copingwithelmons@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children) But yeah, he's gotta point. Why don't central banks loose money like this? Is it because their cash isn't in a Blockchain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Because it's the bank, financial institutions and the trail of transactions registered to known entities who say whose the money is. For crypto you only need the keys and it is yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago Banks also have control of their own ledgers and can just issue a reversal transaction. If it's between two banks, it'll be more complex, but overall that's still the case permalink fedilink source parent [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Since crypto is more of a trading asset than currency, they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Yeah yeah "actually they're currency" blah blah, except they're not really usable as currency in the functional real world (just like stocks) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (3 children) Closest by far is Monero. They are actually willing to spend it as a currency, and when looking at statistics from companies that accept different cryptocurrencies, Monero is always either number one or number two on the list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children) companies that accept different cryptocurrencies But this is the issue, that's like 0.0001% of possible places you can use your funds (probably I'm way too generous with that number), and none of it to not die from hunger, cold or dehydration. And the volatility is still absolutely absurd for something to be used as currency, like all other Cryptos it is dominated by instability and speculation to an excessive degree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet. But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses. What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Hot wallets are for small amounts for daily spending It's the same as constantly going to the ATM to get cash in your wallet.... Nobody carries around their whole net worth in their pockets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago What that statement ment was, that you can't use it to invest and diversify you portfolio if its not in an exchange. So unless you keep the majority in the exchange, you can't trade it without paying the transaction fees every time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago You can use decentralized exchanges. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago It's easier to revert a fraudulent bank movement than a crypto one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] copingwithelmons@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children) But yeah, he's gotta point. Why don't central banks loose money like this? Is it because their cash isn't in a Blockchain? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Because it's the bank, financial institutions and the trail of transactions registered to known entities who say whose the money is. For crypto you only need the keys and it is yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago Banks also have control of their own ledgers and can just issue a reversal transaction. If it's between two banks, it'll be more complex, but overall that's still the case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (1 child) Because it's the bank, financial institutions and the trail of transactions registered to known entities who say whose the money is. For crypto you only need the keys and it is yours. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago Banks also have control of their own ledgers and can just issue a reversal transaction. If it's between two banks, it'll be more complex, but overall that's still the case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago Banks also have control of their own ledgers and can just issue a reversal transaction. If it's between two banks, it'll be more complex, but overall that's still the case permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (7 children) Since crypto is more of a trading asset than currency, they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Yeah yeah "actually they're currency" blah blah, except they're not really usable as currency in the functional real world (just like stocks) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (3 children) Closest by far is Monero. They are actually willing to spend it as a currency, and when looking at statistics from companies that accept different cryptocurrencies, Monero is always either number one or number two on the list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children) companies that accept different cryptocurrencies But this is the issue, that's like 0.0001% of possible places you can use your funds (probably I'm way too generous with that number), and none of it to not die from hunger, cold or dehydration. And the volatility is still absolutely absurd for something to be used as currency, like all other Cryptos it is dominated by instability and speculation to an excessive degree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet. But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses. What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Hot wallets are for small amounts for daily spending It's the same as constantly going to the ATM to get cash in your wallet.... Nobody carries around their whole net worth in their pockets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago What that statement ment was, that you can't use it to invest and diversify you portfolio if its not in an exchange. So unless you keep the majority in the exchange, you can't trade it without paying the transaction fees every time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago You can use decentralized exchanges. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (3 children) Closest by far is Monero. They are actually willing to spend it as a currency, and when looking at statistics from companies that accept different cryptocurrencies, Monero is always either number one or number two on the list. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children) companies that accept different cryptocurrencies But this is the issue, that's like 0.0001% of possible places you can use your funds (probably I'm way too generous with that number), and none of it to not die from hunger, cold or dehydration. And the volatility is still absolutely absurd for something to be used as currency, like all other Cryptos it is dominated by instability and speculation to an excessive degree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet. But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses. What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children) companies that accept different cryptocurrencies But this is the issue, that's like 0.0001% of possible places you can use your funds (probably I'm way too generous with that number), and none of it to not die from hunger, cold or dehydration. And the volatility is still absolutely absurd for something to be used as currency, like all other Cryptos it is dominated by instability and speculation to an excessive degree. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet. But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses. What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 week ago (1 child) I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet. But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses. What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (1 child) they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions. Hot wallets are for small amounts for daily spending It's the same as constantly going to the ATM to get cash in your wallet.... Nobody carries around their whole net worth in their pockets permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago What that statement ment was, that you can't use it to invest and diversify you portfolio if its not in an exchange. So unless you keep the majority in the exchange, you can't trade it without paying the transaction fees every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago What that statement ment was, that you can't use it to invest and diversify you portfolio if its not in an exchange. So unless you keep the majority in the exchange, you can't trade it without paying the transaction fees every time. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago You can use decentralized exchanges. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 child) Seriously (why are you downvoted?). How do you even go about refunds or fraudulent charges in crypto? Are you essentially powerless against scammers and thieves/hackers? Apparently private wallets are not safe as those are seemingly hacked most commonly, every virus and crack looks for it. Online exchanges get constantly hacked and online wallets have a tendency to randomly rug pull. Entire crypto scene is basically banking but "we got blackjack and hookers so we are better" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] nullspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago It's gambler mentality. Maybe you might make some money, maybe you'll lose it all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago It's gambler mentality. Maybe you might make some money, maybe you'll lose it all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gordito@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago I don't think that word means what you think it means. permalink fedilink source parent