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[–] 59 points 3 weeks ago (30 children)

Yeah, as an owner of a vehicle with these fucking things. I hate them but there's literally nothing we can do. All vehicles sold have them now, and the manufacturers have no options for softer lights. I've tried for months.

Do what I did and write your MP. This needs to be legislated.

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  • [+] 21 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)
  • [–] 41 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    One problem is the manufacturers have made headlights into assemblies that cannot be repaired or really disassembled, forcing you to replace the entire thing if anything goes wrong. Also they can be expensive.

    https://daxstreet.com/cars/419253/10-cars-where-a-headlight-assembly-costs-2000-dollars/

    Also sometimes the new headlight needs to be programmed by the dealership to work correctly

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Wtf, on my 2005 car changing the lights costs 30 bucks. They are purposefully low price because you don't want people around going without lights

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    That 2005 model headlight also has a much shorter lifespan than most LEDs (assuming proper cooling in their enclosure). Up to 1,000 hours for a traditional headlight, and up to 50,000 hours for an LED headlight.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Then get aftermarket headlights! Why are you guys acting like OEM housing is the only way?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You do realize their goal is less bright lights, with these LED assemblies there is often little to no aftermarket, and when there is it is brighter. Example: 2023-2026 Acura integra

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    Well you gotta give it a few years for an aftermarket to develop. I'm happy that there are people on Lemmy privileged enough to afford a brand new car, but most of us are driving 12-14 year old vehicles, in which there's almost always an aftermarket available in that age range unless you're driving something obscure (in which case you'd have a difficult time finding even OEM parts for!).

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I have them as well and a lot of others around me and they're awesome!

    As long as they're regulated properly. I'm in Germany and we love regulating stuff!

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Canada used to have regulations about the maximum lumens that could be output by headlights, but corporate lobbyists undermined this with a rule that exempted cars that rolled off the dealership lot with brighter lights in the late 90's when the manufacturers started using the bright blue halogens. Then LEDs came out and they got the same bypass automatically.

    I voted against the political leaders that supported moves like this for years, but most of the population doesn't.

    So, here we are.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, we are very strict regarding max light output, but depending on what we measure, it's Candela or Lumen. And bright beams (> 2000 Lumen) need to automatically limit how far they reach to not blind people when driving over a hill for example, etc. Without all of that, it would be carnage.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    pay to get them replaced with something that's not dangerous

    it's your vehicle. you are responsible for it too.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    There are no replacement options, see other threads.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    go custom or eat the loss. at least tint the housings and lenses.

    this is your problem because it's your vehicle, don't make it everybody else's

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  • [–] -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    If I illegally modified my vehicle in a way that made it worse, it would be.

    This is a factory vehicle from the dealership with no alternative light options. I'm not responsible for anything with regard to the lights on it unless I'm running around with my brights on, which I don't use.

    Not sure how you think the law works, but that's not it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You have a warped view here, I have to say.

    I've looked all over for aftermarket options, and asked the dealership repeatedly for options for 4 years.. And I have no responsibility because I won't go spending inordinate amounts of money to try and engineer a potentially worse solution...

    Right... Great viewpoint you have there.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    Dude. I wasn’t joking. They make tape for this. It’s all over amazon. Search for “headlight filter tape.” We’re talking like $7 and 20 minutes of your life to have a lower chance of getting in a wreck. So do it!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    what you are asking for is practically impossible, and actually literally impossible without spending multiple tens of thousands of dollars finding and paying someone to reverse engineer a car's lighting system, including the car's whole computerized network that likely controls the lights and their electrical environment, then find and pay someone to manufacture a custom, one-off modification, and finally find and pay someone to actually install it.

    the result may not be legal, may void a car's warranty, may cause a car to fail a mandatory state inspection, may be unreliable and cost insane amounts of money to fix if/when needed

    this is a wildly unreasonable request and expectation that you're making.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    If it's from the factory, it's likely not as bad as the aftermarket ones. The problem with aftermarket is the light housing is designed for a bulb in a particular location. The aftermarket ones will often be in the wrong location, so even the low beams will shine higher than they should be. (Low/high beams have to do with height, not brightness.) Your lights might be bright, but I suspect that your low beams still don't shine upward very far. If they do, name and shame the manufacturer of your car please.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago*

    Its bad enough that people constantly flash their lights at me because they think I have my brights on. At stop signs I literally need to flash my brights back to prove they aren't. (It would be impossible, the brights will not stay on when there are any red or white lights in front of the vehicle unless you manually pullback and hold the control stick.)

    I never use the brights on this thing. The headlights are already too bright

    Mentioned in another thread, this is a Dodge. And Mopar makes sure no aftermarket parts exist. Dodge doesn't provide any alternative light brightnesses.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The factory ones are bright but not blinding. Its always the aftermarket's that aren't set up properly or regulated that are blinding.

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