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They're really gonna put The Onion out of work (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[–] 166 points 1 month ago (53 children)

The fuck is a beardo?

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  • [–] 188 points 1 month ago (38 children)

    It's a wild thing. So the term grew out of the manosphere actually, it was mainly a term for present fathers who steered their boys away from that garbage because they recognized it was only going to hurt them. It kind of grew from there to encapsulate everything they hate. Now, they associate beards with hipsters, dads, LGBT+, nerds who like games, music, books, theatre, and basically any man with a soul and two brain cells to rub together, which is precisely who they see as the enemy because they're so transparently evil.

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  • [–] 143 points 1 month ago (14 children)

    So basically a wholesome father with a big bushy beard.

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  • [–] 95 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    Exactly. They've been working real hard to make it about gas masks in the military, which is a thing, but that's not why they're going off about it. "Beardos and Weirdos" specifically is a dog-whistle for men who actually have honestly held values, don't consider sex, violence, and substance abuse the point of life, and try to be a mentor, a partner, a part of a community or who otherwise contradicts their narrow, machismo-laced, lecherous and reductive definition of "Man."

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago

    Look here now, a man can enjoy sex, violence, and substance abuse(not necessarily in that order) a whole lot without it becoming a part of their personality. Plenty of us are happy to be degenerates in private

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  • [–] 26 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Oh ya I get it, just wanted to shorten your more complex definition for some folks. I can hardly comprehend the amount of fucking idiocy and blind hate occurring in the us gov right now. They shit all over the so-called values they very vaguely pretend to support.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Damn, and here I was thinking it was about no-shave chits (which has racial undertones, because black men are more prone to razorbumps (basically ingrown hairs which can be extremely painful)).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I mean, it's the US, you dig into anything deep enough and you can find racist undertones, because American society is built on racism. That said the particular phrase "Beardos and Weirdos" did in fact evolve out of the manosphere to describe any man of any race who didn't fall in line with them ideologically. Like so much of what they do, it just happens to also particularly disadvantage black men by virtue of their ideal being grounded in "whiteness."

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  • [–] 23 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Specifically in the military it refers to those in favor of loosening facial hair standards beyond just tiny mustaches, plus some service members that discovered and successfully exploited the "Heathen loophole."

    Really it's just Pete's preference toward big burly white hairless men that will follow his commands.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    A tiny mustache that fits under a gas mask 🤔

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Beards are apparently a part of Heathen and Norse Pagan religion, so claiming the religion allowed them to grow and maintain a full beard as a religious exemption. That's since gone away with Hegseth's purge of almost all non-Abrahamic religions.

    Everyone knew it was a loophole being exploited and not a bunch of people having spiritual awakenings all of a sudden. But a loophole is much more preferable to a Christian Nationalist leader determining what is and isn't a valid religion.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Ok, yeah that makes a lot of sense. And yeah, when it comes to stuff like this you wind up in an awkward position where you have to allow loopholes to avoid prohibiting sincere religious convictions, especially among neopagans. Speaking as one, we're eclectic in what we consider religious (for example I consider my being trans to have religious significance and if I were to file a first amendment complaint against restrictions on my hormones it would be entirely sincere)

    I'm not even necessarily opposed to not giving facial hair/uniform passes to members of particularly disorganized religions. We aren't like the Sikhs where it's easy to see their conviction and there's a continuous practice that can be pointed to. That said, first amendment complaints are first amendment complaints. Just because I think a compromise might be reasonable, doesn't mean that's in line with the law. Us pagans get fucked six ways to sunday on religious freedom and we do need to stand up and demand it apply to us.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Jesus. Jesus was a beardo. A real socialist hippie kind of guy in sandals and robes and long hair and a beard.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    To be fair, Jesus would only be useful in a military if he abandoned his principles and went Doctor Manhattan on everybody.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Nah, the guy who whipped money changers outside the temple and said “sell all your possessions and buy a sword to defend the poor” would do just fine. He was canonically into peace, but not pacifism

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  • [–] 42 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    A beard or long hair for men has always been a sign of rejection of conforming to social authority.

    Hair is the best symbol of rebellion as it is difficult to defect from, takes a long time to grow long, and is accessible to everyone. You can recognize a hippie with their tie-dye shirt and reflective sunglasses. They signal to themselves and others that they are opposed to the Vietnam war and the establishment in general. But when they go to the office, for a swim, to the gym, etc. they go back to conforming to the rest of society. The hippie with long hair is at all times signaling their rejection to the establishment and is also signaling that they have been rejecting this for many years. The hippie who only commits to the tie-dye shirt and sunglasses can take it off when under scrutiny and put it back on when convenient.

    Hair has no nerve cells. Cutting hair is completely painles. If someone won’t even listen to authority telling them to cut their hair, what makes you think they’ll listen to authority for anything else? Long hair subconsciously scares authority because the legitimacy of said authority is constantly challenged. This is my hypothesis for why being clean shaven and short hair has become a requirement in many militaries, but never a militia. It is the easiest way to get someone to subconsciously be comfortable with submitting to authority.

    Some examples of "beardos" who use their hair as a symbol of rebellion:

    • Koreans during Japanese Imperialism
    • The Khalsa
    • Indian saints, regardless of religion
    • Hippies in the US
    • Brazilian communists during the dictatorship
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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Very true for many cultures. But it's also important to understand that for many Native American men it's rebellious in a very different way. Many tribes saw it as manly for a man to have long hair, and by growing it out it can be a rebellion against the demands of cultural surrender placed by white society

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