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[+] -17 points 2 months ago (71 children)

Parking in Berkley is harder to find than the abundance of existing bike lanes

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago* (12 children)

    Here's a map of the bike lane network in Berkeley. Not bad but you'll notice the vast majority of streets don't have them, including some that are quite busy. And some of these existing lanes aren't really safe with the speed of traffic on them.

    https://bikeeastbay.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Berkeley-bike-map-2026.pdf

    What do you suppose a map of street parking would look like? Does the fact that there is no such map tell us anything?

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  • [+] -16 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    You know, I’m glad this is up to the residents of Berkley and not some internet warriors on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (9 children)

    I'm allowed to have an opinion on it. And If you make poor, false arguments, expect pushback.

    And I'd wager good money that the residents of Berkeley are for it, which is why the council voted for it 7-2. But there are always going to be entitled children who whine about things nonetheless.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Sure, but they're correlated with public opinion. If you've got polling data then feel free to share. But I'm guessing this is the best we've got.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Sometimes. But this statement shows a very poor understanding of politics. Politicians don't just do unpopular things for fun. They do them when their political constituency demands it. And that constituency can only override political will when they have a lot of unaccountable power.

    Flock is popular with cops. That's why flock gets approved. There's no major institutional force out there pushing for bike lanes. Just grassroots advocates. If anything, you can see from this lawsuit how wealthy people are opposed to it, so it must be really popular to override that.

    But regardless, taking issue with my evidence but only offering your own feelings in return is a very weak argument. So I'd say put up or shut up.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Why don’t you just admit you’re wildly out of touch with what the residents of Berkeley want and that lashing out at internet warriors on Lemmy is just a sad attempt to try to make it seem like you have a relevant opinion?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I’m the only person in this thread paying taxes to the city of Berkeley. Mine is the only relevant opinion here.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Maybe someone should invest in building a paid parking deck if it's sucg a problem, instead of relying on public infrastructure to support inefficient transportation.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Have you been? You keep spelling it wrong lol. Public transportation there is far from perfect. And as someone that rode a bike there as my primary mode of transportation for 4.5 years (aside from walking and the occasional bus ride when the route was convenient), I can confidently say it's in definite need of some updated biking infrastructure. There were some very sketchy places to ride.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I lived there from 2017-2022. I saw some of those upgrades, and I have been back a few times. As was mentioned with that map, is that some of those bike paths still aren't exactly safe with how close you are to traffic. Many of those are just cross streets with a bicycle painted on the ground.

    Here's a map of proper bike lanes, and areas of high and low stress in the city. You can see there's still work to be done. Don't get me wrong, you can get around most places, but those high stress areas are hard to avoid sometimes.

    Here's what some of those "paths" look like from that original map posted above.

    And here is the street in question, for the proposed upgrade.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    From european perspective these streets look plenty wide to me - to fit bike lanes and parking just fine.

    Maybe some of those lanes (when there is 2 lanes going to same direction) could be even made bus lanes.

    What is general speed limit in roads like these in us?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    No no, I feel like this is just signs that its working.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (38 children)

    Some people would take that as a hint

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (36 children)
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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Yeah that's why I said I doubt it, not I know for a fact that's not the case. Because I don't know first hand. That's literally what the text of my comment implies and was meant to imply.

    The doubt comes from the fact that I literally can't envision any scenario at all whatsoever where prioritizing car parking anywhere for anything is actually beneficial to anyone, including car users themselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I've been there and you're full of shit.

    It's better than most American cities but that's like saying it smells better than most dead fish.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (30 children)

    InfoSec.pub user, you probably make 6+ figures and haven’t ridden a bike in iver a decade.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (27 children)
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Case in point, you want to make policy that you’ve only seen one side of the story without living the other end of it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    How many people who live and work throughout the area would prefer to commute via public infra vs personal. The preponderence of those lower income individuals who do make up the majority of the lower class are pushed out further when they aren’t considered.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (10 children)

    I’d argue that a lot of the lower income residents need their cars/parking more to survive. Especially in a high cost of living area.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Lower income residence can’t afford cars dude. Take the local minimum wage, find an apartment that could be reasonably split up between n-roomates and then do the math on where the money goes from there. It’s expensive to be poor.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    What does their code/law say? If they don’t have on-site parking then that’s a feature and not a bug.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)
    1. they’re well enough off that they can afford to commute to college instead of living on campus.
    2. it is fair, that’s the point of public taxes and social services. Is it fair that I have to subsidize O&G through my federal tax dollars even though I don’t own a vehicle?
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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    I’ve biked and driven through berkley, and would consider myself entitled to a qualified opinion.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Buddy, you can't even make a convincing argument.

    Quiet, piggie.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    I'm still waiting for a convincing argument, and you're not providing one.

    Every time you continue to do so, you're eating away your credibility and any respect that you should be given.

    🤡👞

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Not a single post you've made on lemmy has been multi-paragraph. I don't think there's any point arguing with you because you seem like you'd enjoy a roll in the mud. I'm not sure you could string a cohesive argument together.

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