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[–] 42 points 3 months ago (61 children)

Incorrectomundo. I hate communism because my family was repressed by Stalin.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    A power hungry asshole was in charge under this "system". It will happen again. This is what always happens. Those systems do not work.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    Which systems? Democracy? Communism? All systems?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Brainwashing starts with deprivation. Those with wealth in the US have been manipulating the system into serving the wealthy at the expense of the rest of the country. It isn't an inevitability, it's a flawed underlying system and a capitalist class willing to take advantage of every opportunity to cement their own power.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (4 children)

    Democracy, capitalism, communism.

    It doesn't matter how you change the rules of the game, the psychopathic mass murderers always adjust and find the way to the top.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Oh, but it does.

    If the population is kept uneducated, poor, and fearful they don't have the energy, understanding, or organization to keep the assholes in check. It's way easier turn a country to dictatorship and/or fascism when everyone is stressed and struggling.

    There is no perfect system, but they are systems that can build a population that is at least asshole resistant.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Stalin was the most popular person in the USSR for his entire time in the CPSU, and could have been ousted at any time had this changed. It would have been antidemocratic to depose him.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (1 child)
    1. Does popularity imply ethics? Morality? Soundness of policy?

    2. What exactly does "antidemocratic" imply? Are antidemocratic activities intrinsically wrong?

    My grandmother in law was dragged before the KGB to answer why her 4 year old had coloured the colours of thier territories flag (before annexation into the USSR).

    I think it's pretty naive to reject that people could genuinely have grievances against a government or government policy. Slavery was popular. Gang rape is very democratic.

    Although thier issues were with a government and not the concept of "communism", I think the onus is on you to charitabley acknowledge that distinction. Being the grown up comes with infinitely more responsibility than privilege... and people who don't understand that aren't actually the grown ups.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    The idea that Stalin was simultaneously a totalitarian dictator while also being tremendously popular among the people presents a false reality. Either Stalin was a genuinely unpopular ruler with total control, or he was a popularly supported and therefore legitimized leader of a socialist country. Regarding the questioning of your grandmother, I think what's at most to blame is the reactionary nationalist elements that the soviets were forced to take seriously, as they did indeed become vectors for terrorism within the Soviet Union.

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  • [+] -10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (33 children)

    Stalin saved europe from the Nazis, lol.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

    He was never an ally to Nazis. That's ahistorical. He signed a non aggression pact, just like all the rest of the powers at the time.

    And he was the last one to do it, because he was begging the UK and France for an alliance against Germany.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    The agreement 🤝 also included dividing Europe into spheres of influence. Which makes the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact the only agreement on that list not between two axis powers that can be morally condemned without the benefit of hindsight.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    Sounds like he would do anything to buy time to build up an army that would go on to defeat the Nazis.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Like wasting soldiers and ammunition to invade Finland, also giving the Nazis another ally in the process?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. Finland wouldn't have sided with the Nazis had Stalin not attacked them. Even more, the Soviet invasion of Finland shows that Stalin felt he could trust Hitler to honor the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Stalin trusted only one person in the whole world, and that was Hitler. Almost like a tragic love story, if they weren't both credible contenders for the title of "Worst Human in History".

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    This is completely ahistorical. The entire reason Stalin signed the treaty is because he knew Hitler would attack the USSR eventually, and they needed time to prepare and also didn’t want to fight a war on two fronts (because the red army was busy saving China from the Japanese).

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

    His only choice was to sign a treaty with Hitler, because Britain and France refused to become allies with Stalin. Britain and France thought it best to let the communists and fascists fight it out and hopefully destroy each other.

    Stalin signed a non aggression pact and then began rapidly industrializing his country, knowing dman well that Hitler would eventually break the treaty.

    Then Stalin defeated the Nazis.

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    By "divvy up Poland", you mean "soviet land that Poland took in the early 1920s", I'm sure.

    Your knowledge of history seems entirely non existent, besides "enemies of my capitalist imperialist genocidal empire are bad and have always been bad, despite literally saving the world from the Nazis"

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    After having a secret pact with Hitler to split Europe. For countries like Poland the WW2 occupation didn't end until 1989, because USSR "saved us Nazis" by imposing their own regime.

    The reason why Russia doesn't even recognize WW2 and call it The Great Patriotic War that started in 1942 is exactly because Stalin worked with Nazis through Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and Hitler backstabbed Stalin via Operation Barbarossa.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago* (3 children)

    He also aided the Nazis in their fight against German communists and hurt China's revolution.

    So a flawed person like the rest of us.

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