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take their money and arrest those responsible (feddit.org)
submitted 3 months ago by to c/science_memes@mander.xyz
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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/1097575

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[–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

Shell manufactures to produce a profit it doesn't care who buys unless it is perceived as maximizing profit. Downstream costumers are companies, militaries, and individuals.

Shell doesn't care whether fuel is considered excess by a military. If excess fuel is used by the military to destroy something Shell manufactured it to do that. I think you're missing the point.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (3 children)

    I'll be honest with you I feel like you're too hellbent on inserting 'capitalism bad' into this conversation to ever get the point I'm trying to make.

    I don't think there's much point continuing this.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (2 children)

    You're concerned that I'm focusing too much on capitalism in the global GHG discussion where you asked lazy questions to point fingers at consumers? lmao.

    I'm not the reason you're not engaging in good faith in this conversation. Gotta get over this habit of blaming others for your personal disinterest.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    The narrative you're promoting right now that individuals are blameless because it's all the government/industry/capitalism's fault is not helpful.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    The narrative you’re promoting right now that individuals are blameless

    I'm gonna write this out a third time and bold something. Let's see if you can pick up on it this time.

    1. Industry that produces commodities for sale in rich Western countries.
    2. Industry, military, and direct individual consumption in rich Western countries.

    This was literally the first thing I wrote to you by the way.

    because it’s all the government/industry/capitalism’s fault

    Actually capitalism is the social system that ties it all together and is inherently part of industrialization, i.e. the production of virtually all excess GHGs we are talking about, and I've explained all of this to a decent degree but you have refused to engage with it even once. Pretending like it isn't the elephant in the room is foolish.

    is not helpful

    Correctly identifying primary root causes is actually the most helpful thing to start with. Then we can talk action.

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